[Vision2020] Mis and Re Direction of Issues
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 28 13:51:40 PDT 2006
Well, then you CERTAINLY do not have the authority to speak on behalf of
NSA. The questions asked are questions that were brought up at the City
Council meeting, the meeting that Greg Dickison spent the entire time at
fumbling for answers. Since they were questions NOT answered there, I am
asking them here.
If NSA is trying, as they say, to become a part of this community, why not
take the time and answer the questions? Instead all we get is rhetoric and
insults from someone who is neither a student nor an administrator nor even
an Information Officer.
And, why so defensive? Is this possibly just another case of distraction
from the real issue? Yep. Looks like it to me.
Does NSA need a refresher on the questions or can David be good enough to
familiarize you with them?
J :]
>From: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mis and Re Direction of Issues
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:26:32 -0400
>
>Hiding from what? You? Excuse the NSA faculty for having better uses of
>their time than logging onto the Viz to continually answer a continual
>bore. On the one hand you demand answers, but the only people you would
>accept answers from are not to be trusted, according to you. So... who ARE
>you asking exactly? Oh, and by the by, who ever said I was a student? For
>the record, I am not. Why don't you check the NSA directory? Isn't it on
>your nightstand, or something? Also, who ever claims to know everything
>about the doings of NSA, other than yourself of course? And for record,
>who's the one cowering? Those who go about their daily business, and
>actually have a job, or those who fling insults from the safety of web
>based anonymity, hmmm?
>
>
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mis and Re Direction of Issues
>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:36:46 -0700
>>
>>Because you are nothing but a student and have NO authority to speak on
>>their behalf. Has someone appointed you as the Information Officer for
>>NSA? No? Well then, be off with your bad self! Until you get a little
>>more long in the tooth, you have nothing to offer in the way of these
>>questions because YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION to give.
>>
>>ANYone in authority at NSA that would care to stop cowering behind your
>>students and answer these questions? Or are we to assume you are hiding
>>because you may have something to hide?
>>
>>
>>
>>J :]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Mis and Re Direction of Issues
>>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:52:14 -0400
>>>
>>>So... If you can't expect a straight answer from NSA/Christ Church, and
>>>we're apart of that crowd (as you've claimed over and over again), why
>>>would you expect a straight answer from us, hmmm?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Mis and Re Direction of Issues
>>>>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:18:21 -0700
>>>>
>>>>I thought the point was to be IN the world but not OF the world. So you
>>>>miss the mark on several issues, Mr. F. I also have to wonder just how
>>>>it is you know what is contained in "girly magazines."
>>>>
>>>>Sorry you felt like getting "down and dirty" was the right tract to take
>>>>- it was not and is not. Suppose you just stick to the issue and leave
>>>>the other crap out of it?
>>>>
>>>>I asked a legit question and then this happened. Mis/re-direction of an
>>>>issue is cowardly and speaks volumes of the maturity level of the
>>>>"director".
>>>>
>>>>Again: Is NSA seriously going to cap their enrollment at 200 no matter
>>>>where they hold classes or are they going to play the game of "You never
>>>>said we could not do.........." And I will add to that - When is NSA
>>>>going to apply for a CUP for the classes being held in other buildings
>>>>in the CBD?
>>>>
>>>>It would be a nice change of pace if someone from that organization,
>>>>WITH AUTHORITY, would take the time and become part of this discussion
>>>>and answer whatever questions arise about them instead of letting the
>>>>student body and peripheral attendees of Christ Church strike an attack
>>>>pose.
>>>>
>>>>As for what you did yesterday, DF, I would hope that is not repeated.
>>>>You should be wanting to lead as an example, as we are taught, not
>>>>chastise folks for not getting on those that do similar things like the
>>>>gutter talk you took up.
>>>>
>>>>J :]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>>>>>To: kjajmix1 at msn.com, heirdoug at netscape.net, thansen at moscow.com,
>>>>>vision2020 at moscow.com, deco at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA Enrollment is up
>>>>>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:56:16 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>Ms. Mix,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm sorry if you were offended in my rebuttal but which truth were you
>>>>>eluding to... that I, as Tom suggests, was in the state pen and was
>>>>>someone's love toy or that having a husband that ends up in the state
>>>>>pen is
>>>>>a bad idea?
>>>>>
>>>>>Some times when one responds in a similar manner as others it exposes
>>>>>how
>>>>>crude their message was. Sort of like a mirror. All I was doing was
>>>>>making a
>>>>>comment similar to the one Tom made but you were only expedient to call
>>>>>me
>>>>>on the carpet. Why is that? Does Tom get a free ride from you because
>>>>>he is
>>>>>pathetic? As for getting under Art's thin skin.... It doesn't take much
>>>>>for
>>>>>that to happen. He is always ready to retread a bad, tasteless joke one
>>>>>tends to find in tacky girlie magazines and substitute his enemy's
>>>>>names for
>>>>>the characters in the joke. Then he tries to make his point by changing
>>>>>fonts and colors. That's a real mature response isn't it Keely. You
>>>>>never
>>>>>chastise Deco for his crude statements. You seem to have a double or
>>>>>triple
>>>>>standard.
>>>>>
>>>>>You know that I tend to apologize if I step over that invisible line
>>>>>you
>>>>>draw in the sand. But I won't do so when it's self defense. I'll turn
>>>>>the
>>>>>other cheek for some things but not for others.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I started this little exercise in ruffling feathers I was
>>>>>originally
>>>>>talking to J. Ford. I was just asking her why she found it
>>>>>"interesting"
>>>>>that there were more women than men. I didn't expect a real answer from
>>>>>her
>>>>>but I could only hope.
>>>>>
>>>>>So as every one started to pile on I just moved the pile to the cest
>>>>>pool
>>>>>where every one could feel comfortable. If every one wants to dry off
>>>>>and
>>>>>talk civilly I'll be happy to also. But if they continue to be crass
>>>>>and
>>>>>socially unacceptable I will continue to move the venue to the pig sty.
>>>>>It's
>>>>>up to them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this clears things up.
>>>>>
>>>>>lemeno, Doug!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>>>To: heirdoug at netscape.net; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com;
>>>>>deco at moscow.com
>>>>>Sent: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 5:30 PM
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] NSA Enrollment is up
>>>>>
>>>>>You're really disgusting, Doug. I don't know what your earlier "NM
>>>>>State
>>>>>pen" comment referred to, but if there was anything close to the truth
>>>>>in
>>>>>it, you're also pretty vicious.
>>>>>
>>>>>keely
>>>>>
>>>>>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>>>>>To: thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com, deco at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] NSA Enrollment is up
>>>>>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:27:13 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom-Tom and Decopauge,
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe the two of you could "go down" and share knee pads together. I
>>>>>hear the fellowship in the Big House is real close!
>>>>>
>>>>>lemeno, Doug!
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