[Vision2020] Taxes and Deadbeats

Wed Sep 27 23:28:12 PDT 2006

Dick,

 It is the federal and state government that is taxing  the hell out of me. Last time I checked they were both run by  Republicans. 

  You are probably right though that Democrats would be taxing too. 

  I think the only difference between the two is what they spend the  taxes on. Democrats spend them on big government programs and  Republicans spend them on big missiles and tanks. 

  Either way, they are taking way too much. 

  I think a flat tax of 20% on every dollar made after 24K a year is a  fair rate that doesn't inflict poverty on too many people. But no other  taxes. That would give the government about 10% of total income of the  country. That is plenty. 

  Best,

  _DJA

Dick Sherwin <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote:              DJA writes: "Tell  these damn Republicans, to stop taxing the living !@#$% out of me. I  should not have to pay 25-33% of my income to the government to give  away to people that are probably living better than me. That is just  insane!"
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  That  would make sense except the Dems want to tax us even more.  Like  Paul, they would probably like to put a tax on our car engines.

  It  is time for this country to get away from the income tax and go to a  flat tax on consumption.  No loopholes, no refunds, no payments on  April 15.  You pay as you consume.  How simple is that?

  Dick S.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     Donovan Arnold 
    To: Paul Rumelhart ; Vision2020     
    Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:58     PM
    Subject: [Vision2020] Taxes and     Deadbeats

Paul brings up taxes;

I  am sick of taxes. Damn, it seems like the more I make the more just  goes to the government. Just three months ago I was paying 10% of my  income in taxes, now that I got a raise, I got to pay 20%. Who am I  working for? Why does the government punish you for working hard and  getting a raise? They tax me on food, income, rent, property, interest  on savings (double tax), gas, beer, wine, tires, licensing my car,  school books, cleaning supplies, OTC drugs, and about everything else  the government can think of. 

Why? Why doesn't the government  stop taxing everything to the point we are in poverty again? Why can't  we put a limit on the government's growth and expansion? Let some of us  spend our money that WE EARNED on our NEEDS instead of spending it on  worthless pointless wars, lazy people that won't get a job, and people  that won't take responsibility for their own actions and life. It just  makes me so mad that I work so hard for the government and lazy people.

NO MORE TAXES! PLEASE. I cannot stand     it anymore. I cannot afford it. 

Here is my idea.

Eliminate  welfare for the non-disabled. Give them loans instead. A single mom  that is young, give her loans, when her child turns 17, she can start  working and pay them off. Why should I have to pay for her children,  they are hers and the father. Make her and the father pay it all back,  with interest, and use that money to raise the next batch of teenage  pregnancies. 

Prisoners, send them all to the cheapest prison  run states, like Alabama, Arizona, New Mexico, and Georgia. Then make  the prisons pay off the cost of imprisoning them with labor instead of  prison and working when they get out. Why should they get free food,  housing, and medical because they committed a crime? Give them loans,  then when they get out, charge for the loans, plus interest to pay for  the next batch of criminals. 

Medical, create free trade with  Canada, Mexico, and Europe for medical supplies. This will drive the  cost of medical care way down. Couldn't you see it now? $1 for months  prescription. That would be fantastic.

Tell these damn  Republicans, to stop taxing the living !@#$% out of me. I should not  have to pay 25-33% of my income to the government to give away to  people that are probably living better than me. That is just insane!

Best,

_DJA

Paul Rumelhart     <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:    Fellow       vision2020-ites,

While wandering aimlessly through the internet one       day (meaning that I 
don't remember where I came across it), I found out       that Japan has an 
engine tax. The smaller and more fuel-efficient the       engine, the smaller 
the tax. The tax apparently ranges from about $40 to       $800 or so 
annually, iirc. People who own more than one car would       presumably be 
taxed on both. In these days of higher gas prices, global       warming, and 
pollution concerns, it seems to me like it could be a good       idea for our 
country to adopt. We could start with lower numbers and add       it in to 
the registration cost. That's presuming, I guess, that the       registration 
cost doesn't already include it. Does anyone know what that       amount is 
comprised of?

Any thoughts on this? Is it a good       idea?

Paul

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