[Vision2020] Just Say "NO" to Jobs and Businesses In Moscow
debismith at moscow.com
debismith at moscow.com
Tue Sep 26 22:12:53 PDT 2006
Forgive you for getting personal? Donovan, your entire life revolves around getting folk's
personal lives out to anyone and everyone. Perhaps if you got out yourself you could allow
others to decide what they want about themselves out on the net. You really need to get a
grip, take a break, and gather your own wa. Stop outing everyone, stop targeting anyone, go
inside and find what it is that might make you a happy camper. You are becoming ridiculous!!
Debi R-S
Date sent: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
Copies to: vision2020 at moscow.com, tstroschein at latah.id.us,
bocc at latah.id.us,
jnelson at latah.id.us
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Say "NO" to Jobs and Businesses In Moscow
Joe,
Forgive me for getting personal here, but you cannot even find a job
in this town. Wouldn't you much rather work in Moscow rather then
be going to another town for a job? Well, I sure would.
Best,
_DJA
Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote: Here is one way to
characterize the differences between us when it comes to our attitudes
about local businesses, Donovan.
Suppose that we are at the big high school party. You think that
Moscow is similar to the girl that has not yet been asked to dance.
It is near the end of the evening. She's lonely and desperate and had
better dance with the first guy who asks her because he might be the
last!
I think that Moscow is the Prom Queen and she's just arrived at the
party. She's intelligent, self-assured, and a real knockout. She can
dance with anyone. She can afford to be choosy.
(I admit that the above example is sexist. Substitute 'boy' and 'star
quarterback' where appropriate. Be sure to change the pronouns, too!)
Best, Joe
---- Donovan Arnold wrote:
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I am in full agreement with MCA on this. I am tired of businesses
coming into Moscow and creating jobs, raising wages, and providing
opportunities for the people here.
This 16 page regulatory document will send a clear message to
businesses like Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Schweitzer, Micron, and other
institutions that provide wages to the residents in the area that we
don't want them here.
Establishing 16 pages of new and "special" laws and regulations for
some business that provide a high number of jobs, we will assure
victory over the people that want jobs and to pay less property
taxes. Whitman County is where these business people will have to
give their taxes and create jobs.
YEAH MCA! I am with you. Stop business from coming here to Moscow
and Latah, we already have enough good paying jobs at least $5.15 an
hour.
Best,
_DJA
PS, I hope you know I was being sarcastic, there is always one in
the crowd.
Bill London wrote: Dear County Commissioners Kimmell,
Nelson and Stroschein:
The Moscow Civic Association (âMCAâ) is in favor of Latah County
adopting Moscowâs Large Scale Retail Ordinance (âLSROâ) for
the Area of City Impact.
The LSRO was written by a team of community members with the goal of
mitigating negative impacts that retail outlets 40,000 square feet
or larger (âBig Box Storesâ) would likely bring to our growing
community. Retail outlets of this size are cropping up all over the
country with a variety of consequences involving traffic, noise,
storm water, aesthetics, etc. Communities across the country are
recognizing the need to pass ordinances to eliminate or mitigate the
adverse impacts of Big Box Stores. For this reason, the MCA
supported the cityâs efforts to mitigate these problems by
adopting the LSRO.
Planning and zoning are reasonable and desirable activities of local
governing bodies. We do not endorse the view that ordinances placing
reasonable requirements on businesses represent an assault on the
free market or discourage beneficial development. We believe that
the LSRO regulates development wisely, in a community-friendly and
beneficial manner that protects the property rights of developers,
adjacent landowners and the surrounding community. We wish to
encourage this type of development.
We believe it is not only justifiable but necessary in our role as
responsible citizens and as community participants placing
reasonable requirements on retail establishments larger than 40,000
square feet. To mitigate the adverse spillover effects that come
with great size is an absolutely appropriate protection of the
property rights of the surrounding landowners and community. We
believe that the LSRO does that adequately by defining large scale
retail outlets as conditional uses in the Motor Business zoning
district and by placing specific requirements on such
establishments to address the following areas of concern:
Site location
Noise
City Services and City infrastructure impacts
Storm water quality
Traffic Impacts
Building abandonment
We agree with the requirements provided by the LSRO.
As stated in the first five and a half pages of the sixteen page
document, there are many reasons to adopt such an ordinance. We
would like to draw your attention to the following paragraph of the
ordinance (p. 5), which highlights the beneficial purpose of the
LSRO in protecting the property rights of the nearby property
owners and the community itself:
Whereas, the City is currently without design review regulations
or any discretionary review and public hearing process specific
to retail establishments in excess of forty thousand (40,000)
square feet which preserve and/or enhance the general appearance
of building design and construction; preserve the historical
character and significance of the community; coordinate onsite
vehicular and non-vehicular traffic circulation patterns within
adjacent transportation systems; minimize visual impact; provide for
and protect existing light, air, solar access, and orientation,
privacy, views, and vistas by the proper and efficient location
of building sites and design layout; provide adequate usable open
space in a manner appropriate to the development and uses of
lands, and protect and preserve wildlife, stream, natural
topography and other desirable natural features and qualities
such as skyline, ridge tops, knoll ridges, established trees and
shrub masses, topsoil, streambeds and banks, drainage swales;
promote aesthetic harmonizing with the environment adjacent to
development; enable requirements for traffic studies, market
studies, and impact studies; and enable imposition of mitigation
measures;
Without the LSRO in place, the citizens of our community have no
protection from the adverse spillover effects that unregulated large
retail establishments will bring to nearby neighborhoods, to the
detriment of residentsâ property values and quality of life. This
threat is something we can mitigate through the LSRO while
preserving economic opportunity, enhancing property values and
quality of life, and protecting and balancing developerâs
property rights with those of the impacted neighbors and community.
We hope you will take these comments to heart and pass the LSRO for
the Area of City Impact. Please protect and preserve the quality of
life for Latah County.
Sincerely,
Bruce Livingston
President, Moscow Civic Association
On Behalf of the Moscow Civic Association Board of Directors
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