[Vision2020] (no subject)
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 24 18:53:51 PDT 2006
That SHOULD read:
Got me on that one! And that one DOES peel paint!!!!
(Too much of a rush on a busy day.)
J :]
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:23:34 -0700
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>Got me on that one! And that one DOES pell paint!
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>J :]
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>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>To: "'Ellen Roskovich'" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>,
>><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:25:02 -0700
>>
>>Oh, I don't know.
>>
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>>
>>How about a paper mill like the one in Lewiston?
>>
>>
>>
>>Tom Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
>>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly
>>used
>>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>>
>> _____
>>
>>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>>On Behalf Of Ellen Roskovich
>>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:20 PM
>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>>
>>
>>
>>That is nasty. . . especially if you're trying to grab a bite to eat. But
>>cows are worse. The only thing that would be worse than 1500 cows, would
>>be
>>living next to a mushroom farm (gasp).
>>
>>Ellen A. Roskovich
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:58:26 -0700
>> >Cain't be any worse than the stench from the processing pond across
>> >from the Mall, can it? I swear you can peel paint with that, uh -
>> >em - crap!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >J :]
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>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>> >>To: deco at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:56:23 -0700
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>And would you REALLY want to live downwind from 1500 cows?
>> >>
>> >>Ellen A. Roskovich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>> >>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:08:33 -0700
>> >> >Dairies use a great deal of water.
>> >> >
>> >> >W.
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >> >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> >Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:22 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Ok, but is there NO land anywhere in the area they could move
>> >>to? I mean,
>> >> > > as long as they are buying land anyway, why not here?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > J :]
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>From: "Tom Hansen"
>> >><thansen at moscow.com>
>> >> > >>To: "'J Ford'" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <ttrail at moscow.com>,
>> >> > >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >> > >>Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:28:41 -0700
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>My guess, J, is that the current facility (at the North Farm),
>> >>which
>> >> > >>maintains 200 milk cows, is too small to support 1,500 milk
>> >>cows, and that
>> >> > >>there is insufficient space to expand the current facility.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Tom Hansen
>> >> > >>Vandalville, Idaho
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention
>> >>of arriving
>> >> > >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
>> >>skid in
>> >> > >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
>> >>thoroughly
>> >> > >>used
>> >> > >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> >>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> >> > >>On Behalf Of J Ford
>> >> > >>Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:15 PM
>> >> > >>To: ttrail at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Why Magic Valley? Why not here, where they are already
>> >>located? Why not
>> >> > >>just update what is here?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>J :]
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >From: Tom Trail <ttrail at moscow.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
>> >> > >> >Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>> >> > >> >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:10:32 -0700
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >>Visionaires--this article may be of interest.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >Tom Trail
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Ag News
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Dairy industry, others, pursue new MV research center
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>By Julie Pence, Ag Weekly correspondent
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Mike Quesnell, president of the Idaho Dairy Association,
>> >>confirmed
>> >> > >>this
>> >> > >> >>week that several entities, including his group, the
>> >>University of
>> >> > >> >>Idaho
>> >> > >>
>> >> >>and the Idaho National Laboratory are pursuing a new livestock
>> >>research
>> >> > >> >>cener to be located somewhere in Magic Valley.
>> >> > >> >>By Julie Pence Ag Weekly correspondent
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>TWIN FALLS, Idaho n Magic Valley, known as the heart of
>> >>Idaho dairy
>> >> > >> >>country, could soon be the site for a state-of-the-art
>> >>livestock
>> >> > >>research
>> >> > >> >>center.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Leaders in the dairy industry have confirmed that the
>> >>University of
>> >> > >>Idaho,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>along with the Idaho Dairymen's Association, the Idaho
>> >>National
>> >> > >>Laboratory
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>and other entities are pursuing a dairy facility to replace
>> >>the
>> >>classic
>> >> > >> >>old-fashioned barn on the Moscow campus.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>The new dairy center would accommodate about 1,500 milk
>> >>cows and cost
>> >> > >> >>about $30 million to develop over several years, said Rich
>> >>Garber, who
>> >> > >> >>represents the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences
>> >>for the
>> >> > >> >>University of Idaho. The facility in Moscow, which
>> >>accommodates only
>> >> > >>about
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>200 cows, no longer serves the current livestock industry,
>> >>said Mike
>> >> > >> >>Quesnell, president of the dairy association.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>These days, Idaho dairies have thousands of milk cows on
>> >>each site, and
>> >> > >> >>most dairies are located some 450 miles south of Moscow in
>> >>a more
>> >>arid
>> >> > >> >>climate. This new paradigm in the livestock industry has
>> >>presented new
>> >> > >> >>challenges, and so university and dairy officials began
>> >>discussions a
>> >> > >>few
>> >> > >> >>years ago for a new research center, said Sen. Tom Gannon,
>> >>R-Buhl, who
>> >> > >>is
>> >> > >> >>vice-chairman of the Idaho Senate Agricultural Affairs
>> >>Committee.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>"This will be the first research center of its kind,"
>> >>Quesnell said.
>> >> > >>"Its
>> >> > >> >>mission is to study western style CAFOs."
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>The facility would employee about 30 workers and have six
>> >>or seven
>> >> > >> >>scientists, he said.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Idaho's dairy industry, which
>> >>is estimated to have generated $1.4
>> >> > >>billion
>> >> > >> >>last year, is fourth in the nation for the number of dairy
>> >>cows, with
>> >> > >> >>about 455,000 milkers. The Magic and Treasure valleys are
>> >>hubs for the
>> >> > >>new
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>style of dairies. Magic Valley has more than 315,000 dairy
>> >>cows, and
>> >> > >> >>the
>> >> > >> >>Treasure Valley has about 98,000.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>California has by far the most dairy cows with 1.76 million
>> >>dairy cows.
>> >> > >> >>According to Garber, Idaho is poised for another major
>> >>expansion n up
>> >> > >> >>to
>> >> > >> >>25 percent, and within the next few years will move into
>> >>third place in
>> >> > >> >>the nation.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >>While cows numbers nationwide have declined by almost 1.1
>> >>million head
>> >> > >> >>n
>> >> > >> >>that's 11 percent - during the past 15 years, the number of
>> >>cows in the
>> >> > >> >>West has increased by 37 percent. Eastern U.S. cow numbers
>> >>have been
>> >> > >> >>declining, most likely as a result of specialized,
>> >>high-producing dairy
>> >> > >> >>farms replacing the smaller farms more traditional to the
>> >>Eastern
>> >> > >>dairying
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>region, while in 11 Western states numbers have
>> >>progressively risen,
>> >> > >> >>industry leaders say.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Garber said having a center with a herd more than seven
>> >>times larger
>> >> > >>than
>> >> > >> >>that currently at the University of Idaho will allow
>> >>researchers
>> >>to
>> >> > >> >>establish "real world comparisons."
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Quesnell explained: "We want to study the relationship and
>> >>impact these
>> >> > >> >>CAFOs have on irrigated cropland, and we also want to learn
>> >>more about
>> >> > >> >>their relationship to the soil, water and air, and most
>> >>importantly,
>> >> > >> >>the
>> >> > >> >>impact they have on the human populations around them.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>"Obviously we are going to be studying the back end of a
>> >>cow."
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>In addition, Quesnell said, the center will offer
>> >>researchers
>> >> > >> >>opportunities to study energy production. That explains why
>> >>INL, which
>> >> > >> >>specializes in energy projects, is interested in
>> >>participating,
>> >>he
>> >> > >> >>said.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>Those promoting the center are looking for funding sources
>> >>from the
>> >> > >> >>university, the Idaho dairy industry and the state and
>> >>federal
>> >> > >>governments
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>Proponents plan to approach lawmakers during the 2007
>> >>legislative
>> >> > >>session
>> >> > >> >>to discuss funding, Garber said.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>At the same time, dairy leaders are discussing ideas with
>> >>College of
>> >> > >> >>Southern Idaho for more classes to train dairy workers. For
>> >>example,
>> >> > >>there
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >>is a need for more welding, electrical and
>> >>facility-management
>> >> > >> >>training,
>> >> > >> >>Quesnell said.
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >> > >> >--
>> >> > >> >Dr. Tom Trail
>> >> > >> >International Trails
>> >> > >> >1375 Mt. View Rd.
>> >> > >> >Moscow, Id. 83843
>> >> > >> >Tel: (208) 882-6077
>> >> > >> >Fax: (208) 882-0896
>> >> > >> >e mail ttrail at moscow.com
>> >> > >>
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