[Vision2020] (no subject)
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 24 13:23:34 PDT 2006
Got me on that one! And that one DOES pell paint!
J :]
>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: "'Ellen Roskovich'" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>, <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:25:02 -0700
>
>Oh, I don't know.
>
>
>
>How about a paper mill like the one in Lewiston?
>
>
>
>Tom Hansen
>
>
>
>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>
> _____
>
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Ellen Roskovich
>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:20 PM
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>
>
>
>That is nasty. . . especially if you're trying to grab a bite to eat. But
>cows are worse. The only thing that would be worse than 1500 cows, would
>be
>living next to a mushroom farm (gasp).
>
>Ellen A. Roskovich
>
>
> _____
>
>
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:58:26 -0700
> >Cain't be any worse than the stench from the processing pond across
> >from the Mall, can it? I swear you can peel paint with that, uh -
> >em - crap!
> >
> >
> >
> >J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: deco at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:56:23 -0700
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>And would you REALLY want to live downwind from 1500 cows?
> >>
> >>Ellen A. Roskovich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
> >>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:08:33 -0700
> >> >Dairies use a great deal of water.
> >> >
> >> >W.
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >> >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> >Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:22 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Ok, but is there NO land anywhere in the area they could move
> >>to? I mean,
> >> > > as long as they are buying land anyway, why not here?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > J :]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>From: "Tom Hansen"
> >><thansen at moscow.com>
> >> > >>To: "'J Ford'" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <ttrail at moscow.com>,
> >> > >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >> > >>Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:28:41 -0700
> >> > >>
> >> > >>My guess, J, is that the current facility (at the North Farm),
> >>which
> >> > >>maintains 200 milk cows, is too small to support 1,500 milk
> >>cows, and that
> >> > >>there is insufficient space to expand the current facility.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Tom Hansen
> >> > >>Vandalville, Idaho
> >> > >>
> >> > >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention
> >>of arriving
> >> > >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
> >>skid in
> >> > >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
> >>thoroughly
> >> > >>used
> >> > >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> >> > >>On Behalf Of J Ford
> >> > >>Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:15 PM
> >> > >>To: ttrail at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Why Magic Valley? Why not here, where they are already
> >>located? Why not
> >> > >>just update what is here?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>J :]
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >From: Tom Trail <ttrail at moscow.com>
> >> >
> >> >> >To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> >> > >> >Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >> > >> >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:10:32 -0700
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >>Visionaires--this article may be of interest.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Tom Trail
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Ag News
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Dairy industry, others, pursue new MV research center
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>By Julie Pence, Ag Weekly correspondent
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Mike Quesnell, president of the Idaho Dairy Association,
> >>confirmed
> >> > >>this
> >> > >> >>week that several entities, including his group, the
> >>University of
> >> > >> >>Idaho
> >> > >>
> >> >>and the Idaho National Laboratory are pursuing a new livestock
> >>research
> >> > >> >>cener to be located somewhere in Magic Valley.
> >> > >> >>By Julie Pence Ag Weekly correspondent
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>TWIN FALLS, Idaho n Magic Valley, known as the heart of
> >>Idaho dairy
> >> > >> >>country, could soon be the site for a state-of-the-art
> >>livestock
> >> > >>research
> >> > >> >>center.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Leaders in the dairy industry have confirmed that the
> >>University of
> >> > >>Idaho,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>along with the Idaho Dairymen's Association, the Idaho
> >>National
> >> > >>Laboratory
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>and other entities are pursuing a dairy facility to replace
> >>the
> >>classic
> >> > >> >>old-fashioned barn on the Moscow campus.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>The new dairy center would accommodate about 1,500 milk
> >>cows and cost
> >> > >> >>about $30 million to develop over several years, said Rich
> >>Garber, who
> >> > >> >>represents the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences
> >>for the
> >> > >> >>University of Idaho. The facility in Moscow, which
> >>accommodates only
> >> > >>about
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>200 cows, no longer serves the current livestock industry,
> >>said Mike
> >> > >> >>Quesnell, president of the dairy association.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>These days, Idaho dairies have thousands of milk cows on
> >>each site, and
> >> > >> >>most dairies are located some 450 miles south of Moscow in
> >>a more
> >>arid
> >> > >> >>climate. This new paradigm in the livestock industry has
> >>presented new
> >> > >> >>challenges, and so university and dairy officials began
> >>discussions a
> >> > >>few
> >> > >> >>years ago for a new research center, said Sen. Tom Gannon,
> >>R-Buhl, who
> >> > >>is
> >> > >> >>vice-chairman of the Idaho Senate Agricultural Affairs
> >>Committee.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>"This will be the first research center of its kind,"
> >>Quesnell said.
> >> > >>"Its
> >> > >> >>mission is to study western style CAFOs."
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>The facility would employee about 30 workers and have six
> >>or seven
> >> > >> >>scientists, he said.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Idaho's dairy industry, which
> >>is estimated to have generated $1.4
> >> > >>billion
> >> > >> >>last year, is fourth in the nation for the number of dairy
> >>cows, with
> >> > >> >>about 455,000 milkers. The Magic and Treasure valleys are
> >>hubs for the
> >> > >>new
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>style of dairies. Magic Valley has more than 315,000 dairy
> >>cows, and
> >> > >> >>the
> >> > >> >>Treasure Valley has about 98,000.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>California has by far the most dairy cows with 1.76 million
> >>dairy cows.
> >> > >> >>According to Garber, Idaho is poised for another major
> >>expansion n up
> >> > >> >>to
> >> > >> >>25 percent, and within the next few years will move into
> >>third place in
> >> > >> >>the nation.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> >>While cows numbers nationwide have declined by almost 1.1
> >>million head
> >> > >> >>n
> >> > >> >>that's 11 percent - during the past 15 years, the number of
> >>cows in the
> >> > >> >>West has increased by 37 percent. Eastern U.S. cow numbers
> >>have been
> >> > >> >>declining, most likely as a result of specialized,
> >>high-producing dairy
> >> > >> >>farms replacing the smaller farms more traditional to the
> >>Eastern
> >> > >>dairying
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>region, while in 11 Western states numbers have
> >>progressively risen,
> >> > >> >>industry leaders say.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Garber said having a center with a herd more than seven
> >>times larger
> >> > >>than
> >> > >> >>that currently at the University of Idaho will allow
> >>researchers
> >>to
> >> > >> >>establish "real world comparisons."
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Quesnell explained: "We want to study the relationship and
> >>impact these
> >> > >> >>CAFOs have on irrigated cropland, and we also want to learn
> >>more about
> >> > >> >>their relationship to the soil, water and air, and most
> >>importantly,
> >> > >> >>the
> >> > >> >>impact they have on the human populations around them.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>"Obviously we are going to be studying the back end of a
> >>cow."
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>In addition, Quesnell said, the center will offer
> >>researchers
> >> > >> >>opportunities to study energy production. That explains why
> >>INL, which
> >> > >> >>specializes in energy projects, is interested in
> >>participating,
> >>he
> >> > >> >>said.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Those promoting the center are looking for funding sources
> >>from the
> >> > >> >>university, the Idaho dairy industry and the state and
> >>federal
> >> > >>governments
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>Proponents plan to approach lawmakers during the 2007
> >>legislative
> >> > >>session
> >> > >> >>to discuss funding, Garber said.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>At the same time, dairy leaders are discussing ideas with
> >>College of
> >> > >> >>Southern Idaho for more classes to train dairy workers. For
> >>example,
> >> > >>there
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >>is a need for more welding, electrical and
> >>facility-management
> >> > >> >>training,
> >> > >> >>Quesnell said.
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> > >> >--
> >> > >> >Dr. Tom Trail
> >> > >> >International Trails
> >> > >> >1375 Mt. View Rd.
> >> > >> >Moscow, Id. 83843
> >> > >> >Tel: (208) 882-6077
> >> > >> >Fax: (208) 882-0896
> >> > >> >e mail ttrail at moscow.com
> >> > >>
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