[Vision2020] (no subject)

BMW BMW at yuber.com
Sun Sep 24 11:18:44 PDT 2006



Tom and Jackie-

Thank you for showing your continuing inability to answer a question and only throw back a Doug Wilson 'insult'.  

BMW


----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 09:45 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)

 Problem solved - DO NOT READ THEM!  Saves wear and tear on your tummy and on 
 us from your whining here.
 
 Obvious solution, but oh so easy to do.
 
 And as to the answer to the rest of your "wonderings" .... hehehehehehe - 
 not telling.  Gives you something else to whine about I realize but, em - I 
 do not care.
 
 J  :]
 
 
 
 
 
 >From: "BMW" <BMW at yuber.com>
 >Reply-To: <BMW at yuber.com>
 >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
 >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
 >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
 >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:49:33 -0700
 >
 >
 >
 >As I sit and read the interesting perspectives of those that contribute to 
 >this forum, I find myself with an interesting feeling of boredom and nausea 
 >as I read J Ford's Post.  I wonder if she should not pay us all a fee for 
 >reading her nonsense.  I wonder how she knows how many students live in 
 >this home and how she knows how much they are paying in rent per month.  I 
 >wonder if she hides camouflage clothing in the bushes to wear as she camps 
 >out investigating (or eavesdropping) on all things Christ Church.  I wonder 
 >if she has wire taps into Doug Wilson's home.  I wonder if she has ever 
 >visited a mental institution even more so I wonder if she can pop of her 
 >little head to show that she is actually a creature from another planet.  
 >Before I am accused of libel or slander (I know it is hard to distiguish 
 >the difference)........I am Just Wondering!
 >
 >
 >BMW
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
 >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
 >Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 01:36 PM
 >Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)
 >
 >  What property exemption are you talking about?  The one EVERYONE gets or
 >  some other thing that has yet to be discussed here by anyone but you?
 >
 >  The "boarding fee" that the students are paying is more along the lines 
 >of
 >  $350-$400/MONTH per STUDENT.  With upwards of 5 students in one home, 
 >that
 >  amounts to about $15,750 per YEAR or better, for just the one home.  THAT 
 >is
 >  not small change and I do not believe the Feds or State believe it is
 >  either.
 >
 >  And sorry, but even you saying that they "pay with services" will not 
 >make
 >  it true.  They pay with money, greenback, payola, cabbage - you pick it.
 >  But it is currency no matter what slang you use.  You doubt that they pay
 >  with money, check out the NSA site yourself.  On it, they specifically 
 >tell
 >  the students what to expect to pay.
 >
 >  And "rent" of an apartment is NOT the same as a boarding house situation.
 >  What you may have done with landlords is not the same as what is being 
 >done
 >  in the boarding houses.  You may want to listen to what Dougie and his
 >  illegals are saying instead of trying so hard to stick up for them by
 >  putting false information out there.
 >
 >  Sheesh....
 >
 >
 >
 >  J  :]
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >  >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
 >  >To: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
 >  >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
 >  >Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT)
 >  >
 >  >So who is defining "family" here J? You or the law?
 >  >
 >  >  I am  more concerned about the property tax exemption which goes to 
 >Latah
 >  >  then I am the small amount of income taxes that would be paid to the
 >  >feds on a $100 or $200 fee for renting a room.
 >  >
 >  >  And, no,  someone does not have to officially pay cash to be 
 >considered a
 >  >  boarder. They could pay rent with services rendered, pay all or a
 >  >portion of the utilities, or something of that nature. I have done that
 >  >with my landlords before and I know others who do as well.
 >  >
 >  >   Best,
 >  >
 >  >   _DJA
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:  You totally missed the 
 >point...the
 >  >boarding homes that Dougie and his bunch
 >  >run are supposed to be taxed but they are not because Dougie and his 
 >gang
 >  >do
 >  >not claim them or notify anyone that they are running such an
 >  >establishement.  Yes, there are property taxes involved, but there is 
 >also
 >  >INCOME taxes involved and neither is getting paid by these em, "church"
 >  >people.
 >  >
 >  >What the Huskey/Opyr family is doing is BEING A FAMILY.  Not the same 
 >thing
 >  >at all.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >J  :]
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > >From: Donovan Arnold
 >  > >To: J Ford
 >  >, vision2020 at moscow.com
 >  > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
 >  > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
 >  > >
 >  > >Jackie,
 >  > >
 >  > >  Property taxes are different for commercial  properties than homes. 
 >If
 >  > >you doubt that, send a question to your  friendly tax assessor.
 >  > >
 >  > >   Best,
 >  > >
 >  > >   _DJA
 >  > >
 >  > >J Ford
 >  >  wrote:  DJA;
 >  > >
 >  > >IF you are getting income through the rent or boarding of a room or
 >  >rooms,
 >  > >the State and Feds require that to be reported AS INCOME on your tax
 >  >forms.
 >  > >There are forms specific to those monies earned.  Also, tax ID numbers
 >  >have
 >  > >to be applied for and received when you are running a business, ANY
 >  > >business
 >  > >be it from your home or an office/space. None of that has anything to 
 >do
 >  > >with the value of your home.  It is INCOME not home value.
 >  > >
 >  > >
 >  > >J  :]
 >  > >
 >  > >
 >  > >
 >  > >
 >  > >
 >  > > >From: Donovan Arnold
 >  > > >To: Tom Hansen , "'Saundra Lund'"
 >  > > >,        "'keely emerinemix'" ,
 >  > > >guber at yuber.com,        vision2020 at moscow.com
 >  > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
 >  > > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
 >  > > >
 >  > > >Boarding houses do not have a 50% tax exemption the first 75K of
 >  > >property
 >  > > >value like a first home. So if the owner is boarding a person  or
 >  >persons
 >  > > >and not reported it to the government as a boarding house  they are
 >  > > >committing tax evasion. Same as somebody in town lending out a  room 
 >or
 >  > >two
 >  > > >to friends that live there for the school year. Rent  charged is not
 >  > > >relevant to the issue because property taxes are  assessed by value 
 >of
 >  >a
 >  > > >commercial property, not income on the property.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >   Best,
 >  > > >
 >  > > >   _DJA
 >  > > >
 >  > > >Tom Hansen  wrote:              v\:*
 >  > > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} 
 >w\:*
 >  > > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
 >  > > >st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Why should 
 >it
 >  > > >matter if “The  Compound” (as I like to call it) has boarders or 
 >not?
 >  >It
 >  > > >is NOT within Moscow  city limits, as has been stated many times her 
 >in
 >  > > >Visionland.   And, even if its current location were within city
 >  >limits,
 >  > >it
 >  > > >is in a  region that would be zoned as an Agriculture/Forestry 
 >Zoning
 >  > > >District  (AF).  And as Title 4, Chapter 2, Section 2-2 of the 
 >Moscow
 >  > >Code
 >  > > >states:
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     Sec. 2-2. Agriculture/Forestry Zoning  District (AF).
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     A.  Intent: The purpose of the Agriculture/Forestry (AF) zoning
 >  > > >district is  to foster agriculture and forestry land uses while
 >  >providing
 >  > > >for  limited, low-density residential land uses which will not 
 >conflict
 >  > > >with  farm and forest practices nor place inappropriate demands on
 >  >rural
 >  > > >public services nor promote the indiscriminate conversion of farm 
 >and
 >  > > >forest land to other uses.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     B. Permitted Principal Uses and  Structures:
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     1.  Agriculture, including the raising, harvesting, and selling 
 >of
 >  > > >crops;  on-site storage of grain and seed; the raising and sale of
 >  > > >livestock or  poultry;
 >  > > >     dairying  and sale of dairy products; and other similar
 >  > >agricultural,
 >  > > >horticultural, or animal husbandry uses, excluding feedlots with 
 >more
 >  > >than
 >  > > >twenty (20)
 >  > > >     animals.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     2.  Accessory building and uses normal and incidental to the
 >  > >buildings
 >  > > >and  uses permitted, including dwellings for persons engaged for 
 >farm
 >  >or
 >  > > >forestry labor provided such dwelling units are located on the farm
 >  > >owned
 >  > > >or operated by the employer.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     3. Forestry, including the raising, harvesting,  and sale of
 >  >timber
 >  > > >and other forest products.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     4. Small sawmills operated as a short-term  or subsidiary use 
 >on
 >  > >farms
 >  > > >or woodlots.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     5. Home occupations.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     6. Single family dwelling.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     7. Family day care facility and group day  care facility.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     8. Bed and breakfast inn.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     9. Boarding house.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     Now, again:
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     This is important to us because . . . ?
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     Seeya round town, Moscow.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     Tom Hansen
 >  > > >
 >  > > >         "Life  should NOT be a journey to the grave with the 
 >intention
 >  > >of
 >  > > >arriving  safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but 
 >rather
 >  >to
 >  > > >skid in  sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
 >  > > >thoroughly  used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
 >  > > >ride!'"
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > >---------------------------------
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     From:  vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
 >  > > >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
 >  > > >   Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006  4:37 PM
 >  > > >   To: Saundra   Lund; 'keely emerinemix'; guber at yuber.com;
 >  > > >vision2020 at moscow.com
 >  > > >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no  subject)
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > >     Saundra,
 >  > > >
 >  > > >   OK you are right about who owns the house. But there still is at
 >  >least
 >  > > >one  person in that household that is a boarder.
 >  > > >
 >  > > >   Best,
 >  > > >
 >  > > >   _DJA
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