[Vision2020] (no subject)
debismith at moscow.com
debismith at moscow.com
Sat Sep 23 10:12:33 PDT 2006
Indeed. Everyone knows we are the boarders in the cat's home, paying our keep with constant
attention, food on demand, and warm napping spots. Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
Debi Robinson-Smith
From: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:01:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
Obviously, Donovan, you don't live with a cat. The concept of a biped being
equal to a feline would be uproariously funny to your average cat. Carl
Westberg Jr.
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:55:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Carl,
>
> Like a slave, a cat is legally considered property, not an equal tenant.
>See, it looks like you, Carl, and Doug Wilson have something in common.
>Both of you think that owning another being could happen in peaceful
>harmony and without violence and torture! Think about that one for a
>moment. . .
>
> Best to you Carl,
>
> _DJA
>
>Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> wrote: I'm starting to worry
>about the legality of the situation with my cat living
>with me. He doesn't pay rent, we're not related by blood. He really
>doesn't do much of anything except eat and sleep and scratch the furniture.
>Is there a consanguinity issue here? Carl Westberg Jr.
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: J Ford
>, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> >Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >So who is defining "family" here Jackie? You or the law?
> >
> > I am more concerned about the property tax exemption which goes to
>Latah
> > then I am the small amount of income taxes that would be paid to the
> >feds on a $100 or $200 fee for renting a room.
> >
> > And, no, someone does not have to officially pay cash to be considered
>a
> > boarder. They could pay rent with services rendered, pay all or a
> >portion of the utilities, or something of that nature. I have done that
> >with my landlords before and I know others who do as well.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > _DJA
> >
> >
> >J Ford
> wrote: You totally missed the point...the
> >boarding homes that Dougie and his bunch
> >run are supposed to be taxed but they are not because Dougie and his gang
> >do
> >not claim them or notify anyone that they are running such an
> >establishement. Yes, there are property taxes involved, but there is
>also
> >INCOME taxes involved and neither is getting paid by these em, "church"
> >people.
> >
> >What the Huskey/Opyr family is doing is BEING A FAMILY. Not the same
>thing
> >at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > >To: J Ford
> >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Jackie,
> > >
> > > Property taxes are different for commercial properties than homes.
>If
> > >you doubt that, send a question to your friendly tax assessor.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > _DJA
> > >
> > >J Ford
> > wrote: DJA;
> > >
> > >IF you are getting income through the rent or boarding of a room or
> >rooms,
> > >the State and Feds require that to be reported AS INCOME on your tax
> >forms.
> > >There are forms specific to those monies earned. Also, tax ID numbers
> >have
> > >to be applied for and received when you are running a business, ANY
> > >business
> > >be it from your home or an office/space. None of that has anything to
>do
> > >with the value of your home. It is INCOME not home value.
> > >
> > >
> > >J :]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > >To: Tom Hansen , "'Saundra Lund'"
> > > >, "'keely emerinemix'" ,
> > > >guber at yuber.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> > > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Boarding houses do not have a 50% tax exemption the first 75K of
> > >property
> > > >value like a first home. So if the owner is boarding a person or
> >persons
> > > >and not reported it to the government as a boarding house they are
> > > >committing tax evasion. Same as somebody in town lending out a room
>or
> > >two
> > > >to friends that live there for the school year. Rent charged is not
> > > >relevant to the issue because property taxes are assessed by value
>of
> >a
> > > >commercial property, not income on the property.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > _DJA
> > > >
> > > >Tom Hansen wrote: v\:*
> > > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
> > > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> > > >st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Why should
>it
> > > >matter if “The Compound” (as I like to call it) has boarders or not?
> >It
> > > >is NOT within Moscow city limits, as has been stated many times her
>in
> > > >Visionland. And, even if its current location were within city
> >limits,
> > >it
> > > >is in a region that would be zoned as an Agriculture/Forestry Zoning
> > > >District (AF). And as Title 4, Chapter 2, Section 2-2 of the Moscow
> > >Code
> > > >states:
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Sec. 2-2. Agriculture/Forestry Zoning District (AF).
> > > >
> > > > A. Intent: The purpose of the Agriculture/Forestry (AF) zoning
> > > >district is to foster agriculture and forestry land uses while
> >providing
> > > >for limited, low-density residential land uses which will not
>conflict
> > > >with farm and forest practices nor place inappropriate demands on
> >rural
> > > >public services nor promote the indiscriminate conversion of farm and
> > > >forest land to other uses.
> > > >
> > > > B. Permitted Principal Uses and Structures:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Agriculture, including the raising, harvesting, and selling
>of
> > > >crops; on-site storage of grain and seed; the raising and sale of
> > > >livestock or poultry;
> > > > dairying and sale of dairy products; and other similar
> > >agricultural,
> > > >horticultural, or animal husbandry uses, excluding feedlots with more
> > >than
> > > >twenty (20)
> > > > animals.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Accessory building and uses normal and incidental to the
> > >buildings
> > > >and uses permitted, including dwellings for persons engaged for farm
> >or
> > > >forestry labor provided such dwelling units are located on the farm
> > >owned
> > > >or operated by the employer.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Forestry, including the raising, harvesting, and sale of
> >timber
> > > >and other forest products.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Small sawmills operated as a short-term or subsidiary use on
> > >farms
> > > >or woodlots.
> > > >
> > > > 5. Home occupations.
> > > >
> > > > 6. Single family dwelling.
> > > >
> > > > 7. Family day care facility and group day care facility.
> > > >
> > > > 8. Bed and breakfast inn.
> > > >
> > > > 9. Boarding house.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, again:
> > > >
> > > > This is important to us because . . . ?
> > > >
> > > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > > >
> > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
>intention
> > >of
> > > >arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather
> >to
> > > >skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
> > > >thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
> > > >ride!'"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > > >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:37 PM
> > > > To: Saundra Lund; 'keely emerinemix'; guber at yuber.com;
> > > >vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saundra,
> > > >
> > > > OK you are right about who owns the house. But there still is at
> >least
> > > >one person in that household that is a boarder.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > _DJA
> > > >
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