[Vision2020] More terrorist propaganda from Teach Gier...

Tony Simpson tonytime at clearwire.net
Fri Sep 22 08:49:36 PDT 2006

Fascinating how Gier selectively chooses to disseminate only those charges 
which are critical of America.  There are many sources available to him. 
Some pro-American, some anti-American, some conflicting, but Teach 
consistently swallows whole any allegation against his country and promptly 
regurgitates it without referencing any counterbalancing information. 
Clearly his mind is made up and he only seeks specifics in support of his 
pre-conceived notions.  This is not the work of a scholar, but that of a 
traitorous hack.

Have a nice day in this greatest nation on God's green Earth.  -T
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Torture in Iraq Worse Than Under Saddam

> Torture in Iraq 'worse than under Saddam'
> Staff and agencies
> Thursday September 21, 2006
> Guardian Unlimited
> Torture in Iraq is worse now than it was under the regime of Saddam 
> Hussein and "is totally out of hand", according to a United Nations 
> investigator.
> "The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in 
> the times of Saddam Hussein," said Manfred Nowak, a UN special 
> investigator on torture, at a press conference in Geneva.
> He said government forces, private militia and terrorist groups were all 
> involved.
> "You have terrorist groups, you have the military, you have police, you 
> have these militias. There are so many people who are actually abducted, 
> seriously tortured and finally killed," said Mr Nowak, an Austrian law 
> professor.
> "It's not just torture by the government. There are much more brutal 
> methods of torture you'll find by private militias."
> Mr Nowak also said that bodies were being discovered with very heavy and 
> very serious torture marks.
> He said a mission to Iraq to investigate torture was too dangerous, but he 
> had gathered information from interviews with people in Amman, Jordan, and 
> other sources.
> Mr Nowak is in Geneva to brief the UN Human Rights council - a body that 
> addresses human rights violations - on the situation of the United States 
> detention facility at Guantanamo Bay.
> He is one of five UN human rights investigators who in February called for 
> the closure of the camp on the grounds it was a "torture camp". The calls 
> were rejected by the US.
> Mr Nowak's comments come a day after the human rights office of the UN 
> assistance mission for Iraq (Unami) raised concerns about the violence 
> gripping the country. It said that 6,599 civilians had died in July and 
> August.
> Unami cited increasing evidence of violent torture, a growth in the 
> numbers of death squads, and a rise in the honour killings of women and 
> girls.
> "Corpses appear regularly in and around Baghdad and other areas. Most bear 
> signs of torture and appear to be victims of extrajudicial executions," 
> said the report.
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