[Vision2020] Notch it down

Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Thu Sep 21 16:34:58 PDT 2006

Sorry, Donovan, but I still do not get it. Who is calling themselves referees? I'm not a referee. I'm just an over-opinionated everyman.

Best, Joe

---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

  A referee that only refs one team in the game is not a referee, but an unfair additional player for one team. 
  You want to call yourself a referee you have to do it to both sides.  Otherwise, it would be like a Steelers Vs. Seattle Superbowl. 
  Hope you get the point now. 

Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:What  is the point, Lucy? One person was just urging another to stop using  unkind remarks. Seems like we should do that more rather than less,  given your understanding of the history of Vision 2020. No one was  moderating anything. He was just giving some friendly advice.

Joe Campbell

---- Lucyzoe  wrote: 

Do you intend to *moderate* ALL the unkind, mean, and irrelevant comments
and characterizations? If so, you've missed a few thousand. Either the list
is moderated or it's not. Either you give every subscriber an opportunity to
fill the archives with slander, lies, hate speech, prejudice, harassment,
crassness, etc., or you ask them to agree upon a set of rules and moderate
accordingly. You can't have it both ways. No amount of *urging* is going to
make V2020 a civil place to discuss the important issues of Moscow. Too much
trash has flowed freely and very few want to do anything to stop it,
especially if they can use it to their advantage to single-out a group of
people and call them unworthy to live, work, and prosper in Moscow. One look
at the archives will tell you how far we've come as a society - and V2020 is
just a small example of how unkind people can be.
Lucy Z. Jones

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Bill London
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:24 PM
To: Donovan Arnold; Dan Carscallen; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Notch it down

I know this will put me in line for the next blast, but I must say it:
I urge you to stop with these unkind, mean, and irrelevant comments and

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