[Vision2020] solving a noise problem
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Sep 13 17:04:51 PDT 2006
Gotta agree with Gary on this one.
As someone who has taken heat over public involvement over the last four
years, I've found that no one in my family has suffered at all, other than
putting up with an occasional bad mood from Mom. Yeah, people say mean
things to me and about me, and that's probably true with anyone else who's
taken a public position on much of anything, but it's hardly heroic to speak
out by name -- it's just what you do, and if you can't, it's better to just
expect that nothing will change. I can't imagine drunken, publicly
urinating college kids being more likely cause harm to you or your
reputation than other folks who've been confronted with wrongdoing, and
while you probably don't intend to come across this way, your by-name
attacks on businesses and your continued anonymity aren't doing much for
your credibility or your right to a quiet, liveable neighborhood.
I wish people didn't behave like hooligans, but I also wish that when they
did, other people would square their shoulders and speak out.
keely
From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
To: "Pennsylvania Place" <penn_place_boise at yahoo.com>,
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] solving a noise problem
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:36:42 -0700
People without resources don't get to spend.
People without license's don't get to drive.
People without franchise don't get to vote.
People without spine don't get to have their
opinions taken seriously.
gc
----- Original Message -----
From: Pennsylvania Place
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] solving a noise problem
Am I a coward? Yes, because I have a family to protect. What "reputable
local business" have I bad-mouthed? I have spoken about bad service at
Basilio's and Gambino's, and about the horrible slumlords at Palouse
Properties. Palouse Properties deserves any badmouthing they get - just do a
random survey of 10 of their tenants and see what you discover. Reputable to
the Chamber of Commerce, not reputable to the people they take advantage of.
Penny
"g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
Rhetorical excess? I see. A person who seems to have plenty of opinions
to share with the rest of the world but who wants to do it from the safe
harbor of anonymity. Bad mouthing reputable local businesses in a manner
where there is no way for them to respond in their own defense. Harsh
accusations followed by "I'm a frightened little girl." Etc, Etc. I suppose
I should apologize for the "you suck" comment but the cowardly part I'm
afraid has been irrefutably proven. Skullduggery by dark seemed in keeping
with what you have demonstrated for me so far. Literally. Perhaps you and
"J. Ford" could get together and start a club. You seem to have quite a lot
in common.
gc
----- Original Message -----
From: Pennsylvania Place
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] solving a noise problem
I guess the notion of rhetorical excess is lost on you, Crabtree. I
forgot that everything on the internet is taken literally.
I was merely expressing my frustrations. I would never poison a dog,
knife someone's tires, etc. It's called "exaggeration for effect."
Yes, I have called the cops. Three times now. So far, it has done no
good. And it hasn't stopped the wild swearing or dog fights right in front
of my small children.
I haven't had a neighborly chat with these people because they
frighten me - I am not a big lady, and these are tattoed fat guys with weird
dyed hair who seem to be perpetually drunk and violent. And to be honest, I
am worried about retribution, which is why I am hoping to track down their
landlord and report directly to him/her/them.
These are not just annoying neighbors, they are potentially
dangerous. Before they moved into this neighborhood in August, this was a
quiet, safe, family place.
Penny P.
"g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
Sorry about the spelling errors. I was a tad agitated. Sentiment
remains the same.
Or will I have to poison the dogs, break the windows, and knife the
tires of these juvenile terrors before they get the hint? I've been
withholding judgment on our latest on our latest, regularly posting member
thinking perhaps they just needed a little while to become acclimated but
this is beyond the pale. Have you ever heard of a nifty new concept known as
calling the cops? Or, perhaps going over and having a chat with your
unpleasant neighbor? Instead ,you reach for the most cowardly options I can
think of. I hate to say this but damn, you suck.
gc
----- Original Message -----
From: g. crabtree
To: Pennsylvania Place ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] solving a noise problem
Or will I have to poison the dogs, break the windows, and knife
the tires of these juvenile terrors before they get the hint?
I've been withholding judgement on our latest on our latest,
regularly posting member thinking perhaps they just needed a little while to
become aclimated but this is beyond the pale. Have you ever heard of a nifty
new concept known as calling the cops? Or, perhaps going over and having a
chat with your unpleasent neighbor? Instead ,you reach for the most cowardly
options I can think of. I hate to say this but damn, you suck.
gc
----- Original Message -----
From: Pennsylvania Place
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] solving a noise problem
Does anyone know how I can find out who is the owner/landlord
of a particular piece of property? I have a bunch of obnoxious students
living near me who awakens my family several times a week with fighting
dogs, loud profanities and screaming, and the most horrible music known to
man.
How do I contact the owner of the property and tell him he's
about to start a neighborhood revolt by renting to these obnoxious punks? Or
will I have to poison the dogs, break the windows, and knife the tires of
these juvenile terrors before they get the hint?
Thanks.
The Usually Peaceful Penny P., who hasn't had enough sleep due
to these brats
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