[Vision2020] An Alternate 9/11 History

Dick Sherwin rvrcowboy at clearwire.net
Mon Sep 11 12:16:53 PDT 2006

Nick Gier writes:  "The problem with this scenario is that Bush simply would
not have been capable of making such wise decisions."

Nick Gier

Such statements put Gier into the catagory of the "far left" which is much
worse than being a liberal.  The far left has basically demolished the
Democratic Party and left it a symbol of everything anti-American, anti-God
and anti-country possible to be.  They are no longer the party of the
downtrodden and the working man but a party of just "Antis".   They are

Many of us conservatives have mistakenly included the former liberals of the
Democratic Party with these far left antis.  I say this was a mistake
because we need both liberals and conservatives to make our system work.
The far left contingency, however, has wreaked havoc on the system by
refusing to negotiate or to compromise on any issue.  Look what they did to
Senator Liberman, one of the most liberal congressmen in the country, just
because they disagreed with him on one singel issue.

The sure sign of the far left is their hatred of everything that is
currently status quo.  They hate the administration, they hate our troops
while claiming to support them, they hate Dick Cheney, they definately hate
George W. Bush to the point they would not give him credit for anything
constructive, thus statements like "The problem with this scenario is that
Bush simply would not have been capable of making such wise decisions." flow
from their tongues like water over a water fall.

I apologize for all the times I lumped you of the liberal persuasion into
the mixed bag with the far left antis.  Please forgive me for including you
with the haters and back biters of the far left, like Nick Gier.  I know
they always claim to love America but one only has to go back and read past
writings from them to see the pattern of hatred and the lack of any ability
to compromise on the issues.

I, and no doubt others, have recognized these truths about the far left
antis for a long time.  Many of us have failed to seperate them from the
true liberals who are as passionate about our country, our soverignty, our
liberty and our position in the world as any conservative.  Most liberals
and conservatives have the same goals in mind, only they have different road
maps to the destination.  That makes for healthy debate and good sense.
Hating and putting down everyone who thinks differently from yourself gets
us nowhere and only tears our country apart.  Nick Gier definately fits into
this catagory of the far left, despite all his rhetoric to the contrary.
Just go back and read his past posts and see if you can't help but recognize
the trend of his messages.

The far left is no more a part of the true liberal community than the Clu
Clux Clan, Fred Phelps and other idiotic blasphemers are a part of the true
conservative community.  Just because such people claim to be Christians,
the far left lumps them into the conservative camp in order to gain
ammunition to use against any conservative thought.  We all need to be
careful not to fall for these manipulations of the far left.  It will
destroy our country in the end if we do.  We need to recognize the
difference between people like George Soros, Michael Moore, Martin Sheen and
Nick Gier and those who really are true liberals.

If they are not willing to compromise on any issue, but only want to tear
down others and destroy the status quo they are probably not liberals or
conservatives but members of the far left or the far right, which is also an
evil that is tearing apart the fabric of our country.

We should all take the time to remember on this day, Sept. 11, we are all
Americans and we should all be working to make things better through
compromise and realistic debate.

Just a few of my thoughts on this day.

Dick S.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] An Alternate 9/11 History

> Greetings:
> The problem with this scenario is that Bush simply would not have been
capable of making such wise decisions.
> Nick Gier
> An Alternate 9/11 History
> Johnathan Alter, Newsweek
> Sept. 18, 2006 - Five years after 9/11, the world is surprisingly
peaceful. President Bush's pragmatic and bipartisan leadership has kept the
United States not just strong but unexpectedly popular across the globe. The
president himself is poised to enjoy big GOP wins in the midterm elections,
a validation of his subtle understanding of the challenges facing the
country. A new survey of historians puts him in the first tier of American
> As Bush warned, catching terrorists wasn't easy, but he kept at it. At the
battle of Tora Bora, CIA operatives on the ground cabled Washington that
Osama bin Laden was cornered, but they desperately needed troop support.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld immediately dispatched fresh forces, and
the evildoer was killed. While bin Laden was seen as a martyr in a few
isolated areas, the bulk of the Arab world had been in sympathy with the
United States after 9/11 and shed no tears. After their capture, Khalid
Shaikh Mohammed and other 9/11 terrorists were transported to the United
States, where they were tried and quickly executed.
> Today, Al Qaeda remains a threat but its opportunities for recruitment
have been scarce, and the involvement of the entire international community
has helped dramatically reduce terrorist attacks worldwide. Because Bush
believes diplomacy requires talking to adversaries as well as friends, even
Syria and Iraq were forced to help. By staying "humble," as he promised in
2000, he preserved much of the post-9/11 good feeling abroad, which paid
dividends when it came time to pull together a coalition to handle North
Korea and Iran.
> At home, some aides suggested that Bush simply tell the nation to "go
shopping." But the president knew he had a precious opportunity to ask
Americans for real sacrifice. He took John McCain's suggestion and pushed
through Congress an ambitious national-service program that bolstered
communities and helped train citizens as first responders.
> Soon Bush put the country on a Manhattan Project crash course to get off
oil. He bluntly told Detroit that it was embarrassing that Chinese
automakers had better fuel efficiency, he classified SUVs as cars, and he
imposed a stiff gas tax with a rebate for the working poor. To pay for it,
he abandoned his tax cuts for the wealthy, reminding the country that no
president in history had ever cut taxes in the middle of a war. This
president would be damned if he was going to put more oil money into the
pockets of Middle Eastern hatemongers who had killed nearly 3,000 of our
people. To dramatize the point, he drove to his 2002 State of the Union
address in a hybrid car. Sales soared.
> When Karl Rove suggested that the war on terror would make a perfect wedge
issue against Democrats in the 2002 midterms, Bush brought him up short.
Didn't Rove understand that bipartisanship is good politics? Lincoln and FDR
had both gone bipartisan during wartime, he reminded his aide. So when
evidence of torture at the prison camp in Guantánamo Bay surfaced and
Rumsfeld was forced to resign, former Democratic senator Sam Nunn got the
job. With post-9/11 unity still at least partially intact in 2004, Bush was
re-elected in a landslide.
> Taking a cue from Lincoln's impatience with his generals, Bush was
merciless about poor performance on homeland security. When the head of the
FBI couldn't fix the bureau's computers in a year's time to "connect the
dots," he was out. And Bush had no patience for excuse-making about leaky
port security, unsecured chemical plants and first responders whose radios
didn't communicate. If someone had told him that five years after 9/11 these
problems would still be unsolved, Bush would have laughed him out of the
> In 2003, Vice President Cheney advised the president to take out Iraq's
Saddam Hussein militarily. But Bush was beginning to understand that his
veep, while sounding full of gravitas, was in fact reckless. When it became
clear that Saddam posed no imminent threat, Bush resolved to neuter him,
Kaddafi style. When the president found, after a little asking around, that
the 10-year cost of invading Iraq would be a crushing $1.2 trillion, he
opted out of this war of choice.
> Five years after that awful September day, even Bush's fiercest critics
have learned an important lesson: leadership counts. Imagine if we'd done
the opposite of these things. This country—and the world—would be in a heap
of trouble.
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