[Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.

david sarff davesway at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 25 13:07:07 PDT 2006


Is this a subject about consenting adults?
D. Sarff


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>Same Sex Marriage Debate ReleaseBill, you submit that pedophilia is not 
>comparable to homosexuality in as much as the former is learned perverse 
>behavior, while the latter is innate at birth.  I do not believe this to be 
>the case and feel it was a mistake to amend the D.S.M. to reflect your more 
>politically correct view.
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>Best,  -T
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bill London
>   To: Tony
>   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:37 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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>   T-
>   First, I am glad that you agree that homosexuality is "natural" in the 
>sense of God-given or innate (not learned or taught).
>   However, your comparison of homosexuality and pedophilia is a comparison 
>of apples and oranges.  Pedophilia is a learned perverse behavior, accepted 
>as a mental disease--not an innate sexuality.
>   Since homosexuality is an innate God-given attribute, why punish 
>homosexuals by refusing them the legal right to marry?
>   BL
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Tony
>     To: Bill London
>     Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>     Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:55 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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>     Bill, you make the very discerning observation that homosexuality is 
>natural in that these folks were born that way.  Quite true, that is why I 
>prefer the term inappropriate to best describe them.  Pedophilia is also 
>natural by your definition - as is bestiality.  But surely you are not 
>advocating the public sanction of these activities as well?  Our respective 
>genetalia, male and female, were obviously designed to interact for the 
>purposes of procreation.  That there are occasional mix ups in our 
>development in the womb, does not mean that we should nurture and cater to 
>these misdevelopements.  Some characteristic can be quite "natural" yet 
>entirely to be opposed and possibly remedied.  If I were born with a faulty 
>heart valve, would you argue that I should embrace my present condition or 
>seek to address it so that my body might function as it was intended?
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>     Have a good Sunday,  -T
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Bill London
>       To: Tony
>       Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>       Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:05 PM
>       Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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>       T-
>       take off your blinders and you will note that homosexuality is quite 
>natural.  Homosexuals are inherently, at the core of their being, 
>homosexual.  They were wired that way, just as others were wired as 
>heterosexual.
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>       I just think, given the obvious complex nature of brains and bodies 
>and identities, that human sexuality is a continuum from absolutely hetero 
>to absolutely homosexual.  It's all natural.  And it's only fair that we 
>allow the law to recognize marriage between loving couples.
>       BL
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Tony
>         To: Bill London
>         Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>         Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01 PM
>         Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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>         Bill, why would anyone bother attending a debate on such a 
>completely unnatural and patently inappropriate concept as "gay marriage"?  
>There is, and never will be, any such thing.  Marriage was and always will 
>be between a male and female for the purposes of providing a stable 
>environment for the raising of offspring.  Must we continue to patronize 
>these maladjusted freaks who would pervert society to reflect their own 
>warped perspectives?
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>         -Tony
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Bill London
>           To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>           Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:55 PM
>           Subject: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage DebateTONIGHT!
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>           ASUI to host Same Sex Marriage Debate on Oct. 20th
>             Moscow, ID - ASUI Vandal Entertainment will be hosting "Same 
>Sex Marriage: A Civil Debate" on October 20th, 2006 at 8pm in the SUB 
>Ballroom.  This event will feature two speakers: Glenn Stanton and John 
>Corvino who are two opposing voices on this issue.  They plan on bring 
>clarity and civility to this otherwise divisive topic.
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>              For more information about these speakers visit their 
>website: 
>http://www.kirklandproductions.com/ARTISTS/Same_Sex_Marriage_Debate-bio.html
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>             ASUI Vandal Entertainment has chosen to host this event in 
>order to increase awareness about this sometimes-controversial subject.  We 
>do not take a position, but instead encourage students to learn and enrich 
>their experience at the University of Idaho by taking advantage of 
>attending such events.  There will be 800 tickets available to the public.  
>Ticket prices will be $1 for UI Undergraduate Students and $2 for all 
>others.  They are available for purchase at the UI SUB Info desk and there 
>is a limit of four tickets per person.
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>             Based on available space, we will be providing the opportunity 
>for student organizations to host an informational table outside of the SUB 
>on the evening of the event.  If there are more than ten groups interested 
>in hosting a table, we will choose ten groups randomly from a lottery.  If 
>you are interested in having an informational table at this event, please 
>email me at katien at sub.uidaho.edu with (1) name, (2) title of organization, 
>and (3) contact information if chosen to host a table.  There will be no 
>costs associated with hosting a table at this event.
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>             ASUI Vandal Entertainment is part of the Associated Students 
>of the University of Idaho. They have sponsored recent lecture/performing 
>arts events such as Mythbusters, Jon Reep, Rob Corddry and NBC's Last Comic 
>Standing Josh Blue.  ASUI Vandal Entertainment also sponsors large 
>concerts, films, small concerts and more. For more information about 
>upcoming ASUI Vandal Entertainment events, visit 
>www.asui.uidaho.edu/vandalentertainment.
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