[Vision2020] Debate or Coward?

Fri Oct 6 08:41:01 PDT 2006

More mystery Donavan!  But intriguing. Are you speaking to me, or did you
mean to refer to someone else? If you are speaking to me, it might take a
while for me to figure out what it was we were talking about; it is not
evident here. But let me give it a shot: Christ Church is forcing me to be
insulted and they are forcing me to watch others get insulted.  I'm
responding to their insults; this thread, in fact, was initiated by a
veiled, slanderous, and common insult from the sister of Doug Jones, a woman
who was otherwise a nice friend to me and my family--before I became
depersonalized and an object of ridicule through Wilson preserving cult
speak at the Kirk.  Don't you find it curious that I have a readership a
large as Peter Leithart's and yet I'm still being mocked for thinking that I
have an interesting web site that anyone finds interesting?  This is a
strange disconnect from reality, and I only point it out because it is a
nice illustration of what is all too common..in fact it is a daily reality.
Frowny face.

Hope that helps. And I would be interested to hear your answer to Joe's
question. Now, if we could only get Wilson to debate me....that coward : -)

Thanks!

Michael

I'm just wondering, Donovan, what exactly are the RELIGIOUS beliefs that
folks at CC endorse with which Michael disagrees?

Best, Joe

---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

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Michael,

  I really think you need to find a new hobby besides bashing members of a
church you disagree with. It cannot be healthy.

  Yes, I am sure you can find lots of outrageous, offense, frustrating,  and
arguably unfair beliefs and practices of Christ Church. But you  know, they
are by far not the biggest or worst religion. And they also  do a lot of
good for the community. 

 Take my church for  example. It is headed by a former Nazi who later
masterminded a  conspiracy to protect the largest number of child molesters
in the  United States by moving them around from parish to parish. He
oppresses  woman, and preaches that gays are immoral. He has more followers
than  any other religion, including in this town. There is another religion
that kills homosexuals and launches violent attacks against people that
even draw a cartoon of their God. 

  Nobody is forcing  you to believe or practice what you want. And likewise,
nobody has to  justify their personal religious beliefs and actions to you.
If you  don't agree with their words and actions you are free to join
another  religion or start one of your own. 

  Best,

  _DJA

Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Donavan!  What are
you saying?

    Story line again:

    Kirkers insult community; Kirkers have big theonomist, take over
eschatology.  

    Community critiques Kirkers as any community would.

    Kirkers unable to rationally defend themselves against criticism; they
instead lie.

    Kirkers continue to insult. 

    Insults mount from both directions, and through all the smoke, not one
meaningful  and true response is found from the Kirk.

    This is the story, and this is my point.

    You,  Donavan, are becoming more mysterious as the months drag on. But
hey,  that's ok; I'll still be your friend. Even if you just might have
defending the Nazi's against the persecution from the Jews!  And  remember,
I still have friends in the Kirk.  Call me Shindler..

    Michael

    Michael,

  You wrote:

  "Does  not anyone at the Kirk have a rational, argumentative point to be
made  about the constant and varied public criticism against them?"

  Like I said, I think you guys should just take your case to the city
council to  require all members of Christ   Church be given a giant  bright
yellow star to wear on their arm so we can easily recognize them.

  Best,

  _DJA 

  Michael  <metzler at moscow.com> wrote: 

Lucy Jones writes:

"If it's not interesting, you could *advertise* it on V2020 the way other
bloggers do who need more

 attention."

    I  am unceasingly dumfounded at how kirkers can continue to make veiled
and slanderous comments even when they are continually exposed for what
they are.  Just this morning I located another kirk blog linked to  my site
that revealed yet another misquote. Dale Cortney still refuses  to pull an
intentional misquote from my blog that has now been up for  months. This is
amazing. After 8 months, and every kirk attack has been  in the form of bald
falsehood, nonsensical ridicule, or else strong  critique of strawed-man
quotes ripped out of context.  Does not  anyone at the Kirk have a rational,
argumentative point to be made  about the constant and varied public
criticism against them?   Outside of the silly "persecution" ploy?

    As  for this quote: this has become one of the steady anti-pooh mantras
that kirkers sooth themselves with. So please allow me just this one  time
to quickly and modestly point out the relevant fact that my  readership is
as strong as Peter Leithart's; you might recall how  Wilson boasted about
Leithart's blog in his sermon when   explaining why he was the truly
anointed one in Moscow.  Apparently, the kind of "interest" Leithart's blog
gets is evidence for  the fact that YHWH will defend the Kirk against its
local enemies; I  guess I now have evidence that YHWH is routing for me too.
In  sum, I certainly haven't sent links to Vision 2020 to keep a "needed"
readership (putting aside the claims that I have a mental disorder); I  just
like local readership more than non-local, given the common topic  of my
blog (which, by the way, is only about 40% Kirk stuff these  days). 

    Dear kirkers, say something true and meaningful. 

    Sincerely,

    Michael Metzler 

    www.poohsthink.com 

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