[Vision2020] Market Over Flooded

[Matt Decker]

J,

J, hold you assumptions for a minute. Do you ask owners of big complexes 
around town and ask them if their apartments are empty or full? Or maybe as 
you would say 35% unvacant. Do you realize that schweitzer is employing more 
and more all the time? More and more people have found Idahos' beauty?

Maybe just maybe the market has hit a two month downfall (which any 
rightminded person knew would happen), this however, does not mean we should 
not strive towards more growth.

Just another note. I have spoken to the owner of all those "ugly apartments" 
on A street, that people on the vizz love to complain about. He has told me 
numerous times those apartments are full 99% of the time. State facts J not 
assumptions.




>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Market Over Flooded
>Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:21:51 -0700
>
>Hey, good question.
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>Follow-up question:  Since the housing market around town right now seems 
>to be flooded with houses for sale and rentals/apartments at 30-50% vacant, 
>not to mention the dorms at almost 35% vacancy and the enrollment at UI 
>down and NO new manufacturing or large business moving into the area 
>anytime soon - with all that going on, why in all that is Green do we need 
>another housing development that would put 45-70 new homes on the already 
>saturated market, especially since they will START at $200K?
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>J  :]
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>>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?
>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:03:06 -0700
>>
>>There seems to be a lot of new, empty shop and office space available.
>>
>>Does anybody have a fact based theory about why this is so?
>>
>>W.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ted Moffett
>>To: roger hayes
>>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?
>>
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>>Roger wrote:
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>>   The question I pose is, why when we open more lanes of travel does it
>>   seem to breed more cars?  One would think having more lanes of travel
>>   would dilute the volume. The movie axiom seems to apply. "If you build
>>   it, they will come."
>>
>>   Roger Hayes
>>
>>And as often happens on Vision2020, no one yet has addressed your 
>>explicitly posed question.
>>
>>One way to view why bigger roads and highways encourage more traffic is 
>>from Business 101.  Businesses look to find a spot to situate where they 
>>expect they can grow, so they take a look at the potential traffic flow, 
>>i.e. customer flow.  So when a road or highway is expanded to allow more 
>>traffic, businesses will locate there hoping to draw more customers, 
>>which, if the business advertises successfully and/or has services and/or 
>>products the public wants, is exactly what happens, expanding traffic.
>>
>>I'm not sure this explains an increase in traffic, if this has happened, 
>>on the new Washington St. section, but perhaps the increased speed of 
>>traffic is explained by the nicer smoother surface encouraging a little 
>>more weight on the gas pedal.
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>>But who doubts for a moment that the proposed "mall" on the Moscow/Pullman 
>>Hwy., on the Washington St. side, was planned with the expectation that 
>>once the new expanded Moscow/Pullman Hwy. was completed, the traffic and 
>>customer flow to the shopping center would be much larger than it would 
>>have been with the old Moscow/Pullman Hwy?
>>
>>I recall looking up the plans for this proposed mall, which was discussed 
>>in some detail on Vision2020, on a website that I cannot locate now...
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>>Does anyone know if the mall on the Washington St. side of the 
>>Moscow/Pullman Hwy. is still going forward?
>>
>>Ted Moffett
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