[Vision2020] Fw: Bush Says He Won't Be Swayed To Withdraw
Pat Kraut
pkraut at moscow.com
Wed Nov 29 09:45:23 PST 2006
I meant this to go to vision as well as Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Says He Won't Be Swayed To Withdraw
So you are admiting that the election was not an edorsement of democratic
party issues but a way of letting the republicans know they had failed in
some ways?? Thanks! Thats what I think too! And the total lack of any real
plan is coming out and that they have many corrupted individuals also...2
years is a short time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "'Pat Kraut'" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "'vision2020'"
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Bush Says He Won't Be Swayed To Withdraw
That was not a poll on November 7th, Pat. That was an election. Along with
the election results was a strong endorsement for change in Iraq, the key
issue in that election.
What instigated that endorsement, Pat, was when President Bush stated (a
couple days before the election) that he would not fire Donald Rumsfeld.
Donald Rumsfeld resigned within twenty-four hours after the election.
I can understand President Bush not being swayed by polls. Why won't he
listen to the American people?
First Bush was "Stay the course." Then immediately following the election,
Bush stated, "I was never 'Stay the course'". Now it's business as usual.
I no longer rely on the Army Times for the weekly "Human Toll" that I post
to V2020. I receive the names (and other details) from a Department of
Defense info-link. Yesterday when I got home from work, I posted six new
names to the "Human Toll" to be posted on V2020 next Tuesday, Pat.
Where is the justification, Pat? When will Bush realize that change is
imminent and MUST be made. Or, are we (and families that have husbands,
wives, sisters, and brothers unjustifiably placed in harm's way) to wait
until George Bush get his head out of the sand (or some other crevice on his
anatomy)?
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Kraut
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:29 PM
To: vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Says He Won't Be Swayed To Withdraw
Thank God! Someone who takes a stand and will not be swayed by polls.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Bush Says He Won't Be Swayed To Withdraw
>From the today's (November 28, 2006) Roundup edition of the Army times -
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Bush says he won't be swayed to withdraw
Iraq violence is not civil war, he adds
The Associated Press
RIGA, Latvia - President Bush, under pressure to change direction in Iraq,
said Tuesday he will not be persuaded by any calls to withdraw American
troops before the country is stabilized.
"There's one thing I'm not going to do, I'm not going to pull our troops off
the battlefield before the mission is complete," he said in a speech setting
the stage for high-stakes meetings with the Iraqi prime minister later this
week. "We can accept nothing less than victory for our children and our
grandchildren."
Bush added that the sectarian violence rocking Iraq is part of an al-Qaida
plot to goad Iraqi factions into repeated attacks and counterattacks.
"There's a lot of sectarian violence taking place, fomented in my opinion
because of the attacks by al-Qaida causing people to seek reprisal," he
said.
Bush, who travels to Jordan later in the week for a summit with Iraqi Prime
Minister Nouri al-Maliki, said the latest cycle of violence does not
represent a new era in Iraq. The country is reeling from the deadliest week
of sectarian fighting since the war began in March 2003.
"We've been in this phase for a while," Bush said.
The president dated the current spike in violence to the Feb. 22 bombing of
a sacred Shiite shrine in Samarra, which triggered reprisal attacks between
Shiites and Sunnis and raised fears of civil war.
Reviews of how to alter the Iraq strategy are underway within the
administration, even as a bipartisan panel, led by former Secretary of State
James Baker III and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., is completing the
recommendations it is expected to present to Bush next month.
Bush said he will ask al-Maliki to explain his plan for quelling the
violence.
"The Maliki government is going to have to deal with that violence and we
want to help them do so," the president said. "It's in our interest that we
succeed."
Directly seeking help from Iran and Syria with Iraq, as part of new,
aggressive diplomacy throughout the region, is expected to be among the
recommendations of the Baker-Hamilton group.
But Bush continued to express his administration's reluctance to talk with
two nations it regards as pariah states working to destabilize the Middle
East.
Iran, the top U.S. rival in the region, has reached out to Iraq and Syria in
recent days - an attempt viewed as a bid to assert its role as a powerbroker
in Iraq.
Bush said Iraq is a sovereign nation, free to meet with its neighbors.
"If that's what they think they ought to do, that's fine," he said. "One
thing Iraq would like to see is for the Iranians to leave them alone."
The president added that the U.S. will only deal with Iran when they suspend
their program of enriching uranium, which could be used in a nuclear weapon
arsenal.
"The Iranians and the Syrians should help - not destabilize - this young
democracy," he said.
U.S. officials have previously accused Iran of military interference in
Iraq.
On Iraq, Jordan's King Abdullah, who is hosting al-Maliki's meeting with
Bush, has warned that unless bold steps are taken urgently, the new year
could dawn with three civil wars in the Middle East - with one in Iraq added
to those in Lebanon and between the Palestinians and Israelis.
But Bush, dodging a direct answer of whether civil war exists or not, tied
the three conflicts together in a different way. He said that recent strife
in Lebanon and the heated up Israeli-Palestinian dispute are, like Iraq, the
result of extremists trying to choke off democratic progress.
"When you see a young democracy beginning to emerge in the Middle East, the
extremists try to defeat its emergence," Bush said. "Extremists attack
because they can't stand the thought of a democracy. And the same thing is
happening in Iraq."
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Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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That's one of the risks you take . . ."
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