[Vision2020] Universities lack of honest education

[Sue Hovey]

I agree, to have her actually lobby her senator for a position with which 
she disagreed, was out of line.  When I taught US Government in the high 
school I really felt my students were entitled to know what I thought about 
any issue--I do think honest discussion has to begin with the teacher, but I 
tried so diligently not to exceed what I felt were appropriate limits.  Then 
one day a student thanked me for supporting Steve Symms and I began to think 
I had really done more than I needed to do.

And I know what it's like from the other side, too.  My undergraduate years 
were spent at Baylor University and while I was then a conservative Southern 
Baptist, there were many times I felt exploited by conservative teachers.  I 
will never forget one of my philosophy professors  projecting human 
evolution from the perspective of intelligence and he remarked that males 
would eventually become beings with only brains and reproductive organs 
while females wouldn't change at all.  But even then, in biology classes we 
studied evolution as a remarkable theory upon which much of our scientific 
understanding is based. I find it interesting  that my fundamentalists 
friends often claim none of their educated believers has ever accepted 
scientific evolution as legitimate, when for me and my classmates that 
wasn't true at all.

Sue Hovey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Universities lack of honest education


> Chasuk wrote:
>
>>Yes, I find myself for the first time agreeing with Pat Kraut.
>>
>>
>
> I also agree with her on this.  If it were just a case of a professor
> giving a student an assignment that makes them look at things from a
> different perspective, I'd have no problem with it.  Many people find it
> hard to advocate for something they disagree with, and being forced to
> do so can be a valuable lesson.
>
> However, he went too far when he tried to make her sign her letter and
> send it to her senator.  There was no need for that, and she had every
> right to protest it.
>
> Paul
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