[Vision2020] Gier shills for terrorists yet again?

[keely emerinemix]

I simply don't believe that history will regard George W. Bush as a paragon 
of moral clarity, strong character, decisive leadership and sharp intellect. 
  Further, it's clear to me that where W will be welcomed after his next two 
  years -- and Lord, may they pass quickly -- is any corporate board and 
lecture circuit willing to pay him.

I can't comprehend the circumstances under which "elder statesman" will ever 
apply to that man.

keely


From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gier shills for terrorists yet again?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:37:10 -0800

And good morning to YOU, Professor Gier.  What was the wording of Rice's
alleged apology to the German Chancellor?  And was their any evidence that
the alleged activity was officially ordered by this administration?  I don't
think it fair to hang out an entire administration based on the actions of a
few loose canons.

As for Major Glenn.....  that was over 100 YEARS ago.  That would be like
judging your character, Professor, for some action you took at 5 years old.
Cheney said he supports waterboarding?  As I recall, that statement was
particularly qualified and your interpretation was, at that time, quite
controversial.  Could you please quote our able and honorable V.P. verbatim
that the readers might judge for themselves?  You might note that Colin
Powell, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and John Warner all ultimately supported
Bush's decision to liberate Iraq.

Removing a murderous dictator, who both democrats and republicans agreed was
involved with terrorists, was a noble effort regardless of the views of
anyone in Turkey, Lebanon, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia,
or anywhere else.

Where will Bush be welcomed after he leaves office?  Anywhere people yearn
for a refreshing honesty and strength of character.  A solid leadership
capability and refusal to bend with the wind.  He will be honored ultimately
by history and not his contemporaries.  He has not destroyed his party.  To
say so reeks of post-election hubris.  And one certainly wants to be
cautious to avoid that.  (ask Newt Gingritch)

-Tony  Simpson, supporting our troops and their highly admired leader.
----- Original Message -----
From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gier shills for terrorists yet again...


 > Greetings:
 >
 > As I have said on this list before, Condi Rice had to apologize 
personally
 > to German Chancellor for the CIA's extraordinary rendition of a German
 > citizen to a secret CIA prison for "special" interrogation techniques.
 >
 > As I have stated on this list before: "In 1901 Major Edwin Glenn got 10
 > years
 > in prison for waterboarding a Phillipino insurgent. At the end of WWII
 > Japanese soldiers were prosecuted for getting information from American
 > G.I.s by simulated drowning. In 1968 an army officer was courtmarialled
 > for being present at a waterboarding in Vietnam." The Bush administration
 > has approved of waterboarding and Cheney recently said that he supported
 > it. Colin Powell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, and John Warner believe
 > that it is a grave mistake and I agree with them.
 >
 > The Bush administration's goal in the Middle East was the court moderate
 > Muslims, but the result has been the alienation of 550,00 Muslims in
 > Turkey, Lebanon, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and
 > Malaysia, who once thought highly of the U. S.
 >
 > A good international reputation is something that we once could be proud
 > of, and Clinton and Gore are welcomed as heroes wherever they go abroad
 > (especially by the Brits, our closest ally).  When Deny's restaurant got
 > into trouble some years ago, they hired a PR firm to get their reputation
 > back.  But Bush and his devotees don't appear to understand how important
 > this simple but essential idea is.
 >
 > Where will Bush be welcomed after he leaves office???  Well, he wasn't
 > much interested in the world before he was hand picked for his last name.
 > Thousands of Republicans are certainly regretting the day that plan was
 > hatched!  He has destroyed his party and our image in the world.
 >
 > Nick Gier, supporting our troops but not this disastrous war
 >
 >


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