[Vision2020] Tet Offensive

[Tony]

Paul, you misunderstand.  I do not take the position that ALL liberals are 
disloyal and share the goals of America's enemies, just that the bulk of 
them do.  Some are simply too muddle headed in their thinking.  This does 
not make them the enemy, but merely to be pitied as an unintentional part of 
the problem.

You may wish to re-read my post.  I never said that conservatives are 
"willing to kill anyone and everyone."  What I clearly said was that they 
have the ability to be realistic and recognize that sometimes one must 
sacrifice a few to save many.  Is this so complicated?

If one's choice to avoid collateral damage at all costs results in the loss 
of an even greater number of his own countryman, can he claim to be either 
wise OR strong?

Pragmatically yours,      -T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tet Offensive


>
>>Your observation about the coverage of the mosque in Fallujah where Al-Zar
>>punk-boy was hiding was also correct.  We should have ignored the
>>collaborating subversives in our media and allowed the generals to blast 
>>the
>>bastard, mosque and all, right into Allah's lap.  This only sounds bad to
>>those who haven't the stomach for what is unavoidable to achieve victory 
>>or
>>the sense to defer to those who do.
>>
>>
> I'm tired of these two basic assertions that I keep seeing.  One is that
> the "liberals" are somehow unloyal and unamerican, as you seem to be
> implying here by calling them "collaborating subversives in our media".
> The other is that a lack of total willingness to kill anyone and
> everyone is some form of weakness, as you seem to imply when you say
> that liberals "haven't the stomach for what is unavoidable to achieve
> victory or the sense to defer to those who do".
>
> We will never have a reasonable debate here if these issues are not
> addressed, in my opinion.
>
> To start with, I will claim that many of the "liberals" care as deeply
> about their country as you do.  I will also claim that the ability to
> show mercy or to abstain from killing from a position of strength is a
> sign of power, not weakness.
>
> Paul
>
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