[Vision2020] Re: Here's your coffee Dear, now where's my swift kick?

Tue May 23 07:41:16 PDT 2006

Wow, Farris,

It must be nice to be able to find time to do a text search of thousands of 
past V 2020 postings.  Did you include all posters in your search?  Such a 
useful social service.  The poor and the ill will certainly and greatly 
benefit from your labors.

Despite Jackie's well-intentioned plea, I expect, when deemed appropriate, 
posters will continue to use the "F'" word and others like it on V 2020.  If 
parents are afraid that the occasional exposure to "blue" language will 
really corrupt their children, then I suspect their parenting priorities may 
need revision.  I also suspect that many parents are unaware of the amount 
of blue language used even by grade school children from "good" families.

Were I a Christian parent, I would worry more about my children discovering 
on V 2020 that supernatural religious belief is a highly suspect, 
superstitious fantasy and that the existence of Santa Claus is a more 
probable/testable proposition than the existence of some alleged, 
ill-defined god.  Further, I would worry that children would find out at a 
untenably tender age that some of those elected/appointed to serve us are 
liars, cheats, scoundrels, semi-literate, lazy, and much more interested in 
their own well being, power and wealth than that of those they are 
elected/appointed to serve.  Giving kids such dangerous knowledge could lead 
to them to ask questions and to take actions that might eventually result in 
(Gasp!) more knowledgeable citizens and less self-interested, more honest 
politicians.

For those naive parents that are really concerned that their kids are going 
to be hopelessly corrupted by the language on V 2020, filters are available.

Not adult persons all like blue language.  Similarly, I do not like many of 
the things said here.  However, I am glad we live in a country where we can 
absolutely disagree and not be subject to censorship and penalty.  If you 
believe what a person says or the language they use to say it is egregiously 
corrupting, filter them.  However, the choice of subjects and the language 
used to express opinions on these subjects is one of the most important 
freedoms we have and one that is an essential tool in the quest for truth. 
We should resist attempts to abrogate that.

Still it is useful tool for understanding the worldview and priorities of 
Farris to see that he thinks it important to remind us that the word "fuck" 
has now used on V 2020 at least 21 times in the last three years.  Sirraf, 
the Goddess of Unemployed Electricians, has certainly bestowed her great 
fortune and insight on him.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <heirdoug at netscape.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Here's your coffee Dear, now where's my swift 
kick?

> Jackie had this moral feeling come over her....
>
> "Hey, for the sake of those of us who do not actually use or spell out in
> force the words, can you consider cleaning your language up just a bit?
> Between you and DJA, this is getting really rank in here.  At least be
> polite enough to use symbols and such.  As noted earlier, there are young
> ones who read this list and I really don't see supporting their learning 
> or
> using of the foul language you seem to have slipped into.
>
> Just a thought....I am sure the rampage will now begin in earnest."
>
> and over on Right-Mind......
>
> Donovan is the only person I know that used the "F..." word on Vision 
> 2020. Just last week.
>
> Your memory needs some refreshing.
>
> Wayne Fox has:
> Wed Aug 4 14:34:43 PDT 2004
> Wed Dec 14 18:36:16 PST 2005
> Fri Dec 16 17:00:05 PST 2005
> Sat Dec 17 10:42:05 PST 2005
>
> Melynda Huskey has:
> Mon Jun 28 13:09:01 PDT 2004
> Tue Sep 6 12:10:39 PDT 2005
>
> Tom Hansen has:
> Mon Oct 18 14:25:08 PDT 2004
> Mon Oct 10 17:05:18 PDT 2005
> Fri Sep 30 19:54:12 PDT 2005
> Fri Sep 30 19:54:12 PDT 2005
> Fri Feb 3 14:27:44 PST 2006
> Tue Feb 7 00:13:47 PST 2006
> Wed Mar 22 23:34:49 PST 2006
>
> Joan Opyr has:
> Tue Oct 26 12:54:14 PDT 2004
>
> Andreas Schou has:
> Thu Sep 1 21:24:40 PDT 2005
> Sat Sep 3 21:02:17 PDT 2005
>
> ChasUK has:
> Mon Sep 12 17:28:08 PDT 2005
> Mon Sep 12 17:28:08 PDT 2005
> Fri Feb 3 14:27:44 PST 2006
> Tue Feb 7 00:13:47 PST 2006
> Wed Mar 22 23:34:49 PST 2006
>
> And even keely mix (the most famous evangelical on the Palouse) has:
> Tue Sep 6 12:23:45 PDT 2005
>
> Here's a question for you: what do all of these people have in common?
>
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