[Vision2020] Re: [] crossing the line

[Donovan Arnold]

Ed,
  
 I too am overburdened by being excluded from the email  list of such a prominent member of the community as Debi Smith. The  burden is overwhelming. But one can truly understand why she would call  us names, attack us personally,  and remove us from her list  because we resorted to expressing our opinions about those that attack  us and our family members.
  
 The Liberal rules on Vision 2020  are simple and fair. If a liberal expresses an opinion, and attacks you  or a member of your family, that is fine. If you attack back, respond,  or explain yourself, you are resorting to mudslinging and personal  attacks. 
  
 That is the way Vision2020 works now, it is the  way it has worked in the past, and it is the way it will work in the  future. If you don't want your family, friends, or personhood attacked,  you need to adopt their beliefs, it is that simple. I have seen wave  after wave of moderates and conservatives come and go on this list, but  it is always the same bunch of liberal yahoos starting the fights with  personal attacks, and then claiming the higher moral ground when the  people respond. Believe it or not, I use to be a liberal, until I  joined Vision 2020 2003. But I am sorry, there is no way I could join  or support this bunch now. They are just out of the loop of reality and  the most are the most self centered people I have ever engaged with.  Most conservatives and moderates are smart enough to just walk away for  Vision 2020. Others like myself, are not and just keep just firing  back, in the hopes that something will be as offensive, pointless,  divisive,
 discriminatory, closeminded, and hurtful to them, as they are  to everyone else that dares express such an opinion contary to their  own and visiting this serve-list. 
  
 Vision 2020 is now just a  pointless listserve for people with big mouths and little brains to  express disgust in others that differ from them. Too bad, it could have  been something special. Now it is just the Ghetto of the Palouse. 
  
  Best Regards,
  
  _DJA

Ed <ecooper at turbonet.com> wrote:              Debbie,  and perhaps you won't get this because I'm "bozoed"...huh, she's even  calling me a bozo as well as Mr. Ed--and she doesn't even know me--her  loss. D, de, def, definately, her loss. 
   
  Anyway,  I, as well, have no interest in anything you say because you are so  shallow; you call my dialogue BS and dismiss it a "quasi-religious  rhetoric"...Well, I couldn't care less. Your  hyphenated-last-name-was-plenty-to-alert-me-to-a-number-of-things-about-you,  your philosophy, and your personality...No   thanks, 
   
  I  can't believe men put up with women not taking their last name...what a  crock! Another personification/manifestation of the modern feminazi  movement
   
   
  Mr. Ed
  http://amren.com/
      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     debismith at moscow.com 
    To: keely emerinemix ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:17   AM
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] crossing the     line
    

Indeed, Keely. Exactly why I "bozo" filtered DJA. I have also     now filtered Mr. Ed, ToeKnee, and 
Dick. I'm not as able as you and Chas to     attempt discourse with these folks. It just raises my 
blood pressure and     fuels their vitriolic responses.

I learned some time ago that reality     can't penetrate the preconceptions of some people, nor 
can information be     evaluated rationally through anger, fear, and hate. It's even worse when     
wrapped in a cloud of quasi-religious rhetoric.

While most folks on     V2020 can discuss expressed opinions (albeit angrily at times), and often     
change their minds when given facts, a few are just unable to get past     their own pile of BS long 
enough to even recognize their own blind spots.     DJA, Dick, ToeKnee, and Mr. Ed are among 
those few. I often disagree with     others, but find their writing at least interesting and sometimes 
amusing.     These four, however, are simply dreary, nasty, and repulsive. 

Bozo     filters are the best thing invented since call screening!

Debi     Robinson-Smith



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