[Spam] Re: [Vision2020] The immigration debate

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Wed May 3 15:17:27 PDT 2006


The gangs you mentioned are a serious problem. Sealing the boarder may or not be a step in the right direction. More vigorous effort at the local levels are also needed. These  should entail police, social workers, the church  and vocational training.

Roger
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From: "Donatelo Juan" donboy22 at hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 15:01:46 -0700
To: lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] The immigration debate

> Something to add to the debate:
> 
> The last time I was in the Moscow post office, I paused to look at the most 
> wanted list while waiting in line.  I was surprised to see how many of the 
> people on that list had  latino surnames.  When illegals latino or other 
> come into the country illegally, they have no incentive to obey the laws we 
> have and attempt to enforce.
> 
> I believe that if you google latino street gangs, you will find two large 
> gangs out of Central America, MS - 13 and Mara 18.  These gangs have done a 
> fine job at becoming organized; the groups are international.  In Nicaragua 
> you can be arrested for wearing you pants to low (are they still called 
> saggs) and having tattoos.  Nicaragua is fighting hard to keep these two 
> gangs from moving in.  They are violent.  They are dealing in drugs, 
> prostitution, human trafficking, kidnapping, and murder.  These gangs do not 
> kill only in the fights among themselves for territory.  They kill to make 
> examples.  They have not killed only the targeted victim, but they have also 
> killed the families.  Shooting a person does not send the message they are 
> seeking, they prefer to use machetes.  There is no doubt about the message 
> they send to the community when an entire family is cut to pieces.  These 
> two gangs are well established in USA and working to control the southern 
> boarder, from a criminal perspective.
> 
> Well just a couple of thoughts as to why the USA needs to close the boards 
> with wall and armed soldiers.  If you want to live in a country, enter 
> legally.
> 
> Mat
> 
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