[Vision2020] Re: The unborn are God's children.......

[joekc at adelphia.net]

Crabtree,

The point is not that God will take care of everything and we don't need to do anything. The point is don't bring God into the argument. My views about NSA and the CUP, for instance, are my views. I'm not saying that NSA should not be downtown because God doesn't want them to be downtown. I use my own arguments and reasons and I'm willing to live with the consequences of whether or not they work.

If the only reason that one can muster up for passing a law is based on their personal interpretation of their own religious text, that is not good enough. Why should one who does not hold that text as sacred believe it? Why does one who adopts a different interpretation of the text believe it? That is all that matters.

The law should be based on clear harms to clear persons, principles on which we all agree or principles that are supportable by general arguments without reference to a set of personal beliefs.

--
Joe Campbell

---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote: 

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Mr. Campbell, Why does your argument fly for abortion, but not for rape, 
murder, burglary and writing bad checks? By this same logic there would be 
no need for you to stand in the way of a new and improved Wal-Mart, the 
Omnipotent Being would handle it as He saw fit.  NSA and their CUP? " do you 
think he can't take care of it on his own?" Why involve yourself in any 
matter? "Does He need your help?"

Curious,
G. Crabtree
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: <ToeKneeTime at aol.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: The unborn are God's children.......


> Dear Tony,
>
> If all children are God's children, shouldn't we let Him worry about the 
> abortion problem? Do you think He can't take care of it on His own? Does 
> He need your help? Why would one need to help an Omnipotent Being? How can 
> more laws possibly help people to become better than they already are? 
> Does God care merely about what we do, regardless of why we do it?
>
> I am not 'pro-abortion' by any means. I'm just telling you that the point 
> is to help people to MAKE the right choices, not to FORCE them to do it. 
> This involves argument and influence, not the LAW. It is impossible to 
> force someone to make a choice of any kind. If people fail to make the 
> right choice, then let Him take care of it. I'm confident that He will. 
> Aren't you?
>
> Compelling people to 'do the right thing' via some law is not the same 
> thing as helping someone to make the right decision. As I see it, 
> Christianity has more to do with the latter than with the former. I'd like 
> to know why I'm wrong if I am.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- ToeKneeTime at aol.com wrote:
>
> =============
> Joan and J,
>
> Glad that you would never support anyone in getting an abortion.   Surely
> unborn children are God's children, worthy of support and  compassion.
> Abortionists stepping in and messing with the process of  gestation are 
> playing God and
> THEY HAVE NO RIGHT!  They should get over  themselves and let the unborn 
> live.
>
> Best,  Tony
>
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