[Vision2020] Unclear P & Z Notice
Craine Kit
kcraine at verizon.net
Thu Mar 16 00:06:13 PST 2006
This is a project near PCEI by the folks who did the Cottages and the
Silo, which is across the road and a bit farther North than the one
described below. That one has not yet been noticed.
Kit Craine
On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Greetings Visionaires and thank you, J -
>
> This is simply a matter of "business as usual", the creed of Anselm
> House:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Anselm House Creed
>
> 1) If I want something, it is my right to take it.
>
> 2) If I ask for it, it should be given to me.
>
> 3) If the Pagan masses should object, that would merely serve as
> evidence of
> their organized conspiracy in pursuit of religious persecution
> against me.
>
> 4) Laws are man-made and as such do not concern me.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> You read it here first, ladies and gentlemen. This is nothing
> new. It is
> becoming common knowledge.
>
> However, I have confidence in the community of Moscow and our court
> system.
>
> There will come a day when we all shall gather around the dedicated
> benches
> of Friendship Square, benches named in honor of those "soldiers" whose
> selfless community service was the foundation for a new Moscow, a
> Moscow
> where "law-abiding" and "compassionate" are attributes shared by all.
>
> Until then, I have but one question for Doug "His Whineyness"
> Wilson . . .
>
> "Whatcha Gonna Do?"
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Whatcha_Gonna_Do.mp3
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> *************************************************
>
> "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
>
> - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
>
> For more details: http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse
>
> *************************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
> bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of J Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:30 PM
> To: deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; joanopyr at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Unclear P & Z Notice
>
> Thanks for letting everyone know about this project notice. It is
> land that
>
> Wilson, Hoffman and Grey own and is located off of N. Polk
> extension...the
> word is that they are planning to build a "compound" that would
> house the
> NSA students and be the start of Wilsonvile in Moscow. Basically,
> from what
>
> people in the area have been told, it will be a community within a
> community
>
> - a gated community at that.
>
> 1. If the 200 NSA students are adequately housed now, why build a
> large
> compound? Does this mean that the population of NSA is expected to
> enlarge
> significantly, as Roy Atwood hinted at in his NSA statement in
> Jan? If so,
> does this not violate his and Bob H's promise to keep the downtown
> school at
>
> the present level? Does this mean, perhaps, that the NSA would
> actually
> move out of downtown?
>
> 2. Since there are NUMEROUS people living in that area that would be
> affected and in fact are NOW affected, i.e. intrusion onto their
> property
> with the closing off of the access road, how much more is this
> going to
> interrupt their lives? To date, there is a fire access road that is
> consistently blocked by cars from students who go to Wilson's and
> Grey's
> homes for "study groups". The City does little to relieve the
> problem when
> the neighbors complain, now. What is going to happen when that
> road is
> blocked by 200(+) students? Just how are the present neighbors
> supposed to
> even access their homes if the area is turned over to this group?
>
> 3. The compound, if allowed, will undoubtedly become tax exempt.
> How will
> that affect the tax base for Moscow when so many people in one area
> are not
> paying their fair share? Will it not fall on the rest of us to pay
> for
> their fire/police/ambulance/city amenities both for the City and
> County
> Latah?
>
> 4. Once again, we see THIS special interest group getting special
> treatment
>
> for their project, from the City. With the hoops that WalMart is
> having to
> go through (they, BTW, would be paying taxes on their land and
> sales taxes
> to the State which benefits everyone) why is it that THIS group
> continually
> gets waivers and "look the other way" treatment? Is it not the
> DUTY of
> these citizens (Wilson, et al) to abide by the law that the REST OF
> US have
> to? If the plans don't meet the requirements, why not re-make the
> project
> until it does? Why not consider building outside of the City, away
> from
> neighbors and neighborhoods that have been established for years?
>
> 5. Just how does this fall into line with not only the
> Comprehensive Plan
> but the New Cities?
>
> I know when the meeting occurs, there will be a lot of slick talk and
> promises made...since the record for this group is NOT good as far as
> keeping their word, why believe them on this project?
>
>
> J :{
>
>
>
>
>> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Unclear P & Z Notice
>> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:33:16 -0800
>>
>> Moscow Citizens with an interest in Planning and Zoning and/or
>> property tax
>
>> equity:
>>
>> Does anyone know anything about the proposal referenced in the ad
>> below
>> from yesterday's Daily News Legal Notices?
>>
>> The map in the Legal Notice is not legible, hence the location is
>> of the
>> proposal is not clear from the map. [Why would someone even
>> insert or
>> authorize the insertion of such an illegible map in a Legal Notice
>> in the
>> first place?]
>>
>>
>> The ad contains the following language:
>>
>> "The proposal would require modification to or waiver of certain City
>> development standards."
>>
>>
>> Such language should always raise a red flag for citizens
>> interested in the
>
>> equitable and consistent application of planning and zoning
>> regulations.
>> The city has already demonstrated that they are willing to look
>> the other
>> way for zoning violations: NSA (part of the Wilson & Family's
>> Cult & Cash
>> Machine). Creating another like mess should not be tolerated.
>>
>> The city has a comprehensive plan and a zoning ordinance.
>> Deviation from
>> such should be looked at extremely carefully and with a gargantuan
>> amount
>> of skepticism.
>>
>> Hence, it would behoove Moscow citizens to investigate this proposal
>> carefully and to make their opinions known, especially about those
>> parts of
>
>> the proposal that would require modification to or waiver of
>> certain City
>> development standards. Persons who live in the general area of
>> Rodeo Drive
>
>> (wherever that is) or might be affected in some way by this enigmatic
>> proposal might find it profitable to visit the city planning
>> department as
>> the notice itself suggests:
>>
>> "The file containing information on this matter is available for
>> public
>> review (an appointment may be necessary) at the Community Development
>> Department located in the Paul Mann Building, 221 East Second Street,
>> Moscow, Idaho. You may also call 883-7022 to get a meeting
>> agenda, further
>
>> information about the application, the public meeting process and/
>> or to
>> request a meeting with City Staff"
>>
>> "Additionally, you may obtain further information about the public
>> hearing
>> process and procedures on the City's Website at:
>> http://www.ci.moscow.id.us/legal/PublicHearings.asp"
>>
>>
>> When making an inquiry about this matter, citizens might also ask
>> how it
>> came about that such an illegible map was included in the Legal
>> Notice, and
>
>> since it was so illegible, shouldn't the Legal Notice be run
>> again, this
>> time with a map which would give a small hint about the actual
>> location of
>> the proposal so that those that might be affected might stand a
>> better
>> chance of being informed. [If the Legal Notice is not run again
>> with a
>> legible map, does the notice meet statutory requirements?]
>>
>> Another question: Is this proposal another attempt by special
>> interests to
>
>> hijack Moscow citizens' interests and/or to evade property taxes?
>>
>>
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> deco at moscow.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> << SNAGHTML14921b0.PNG >>
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