[Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Wed Mar 8 07:10:22 PST 2006 

And we should "trust" Bush to restrict his use of the line-item veto?

I don't think so.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of James Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:02 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto

The reason the line item veto was held to be unconstitutional when Clinton 
was using it is because it took appropriation control away from congress. 
The version the Bush Master is shooting for would not be unconstitutional 
because the President would only be able to pull out the individual items he

did not like and send them back to congress for individual up or down votes.

An example would be that Bush could have pulled out the Bridge to nowhere 
pork deal and sent it to congress where they would of had to deal with it in

the open. of course it will be used as a political weapon by whatever 
President is in power but it probably wouldn't hurt to get these pork bills 
looked at by themselves in the open. It would probably actually slow down 
congresses current zeal to attach pork to major appropriations if they knew 
it might be reviewed in the open public air.

James


>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto
>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:35:42 -0800
>
>Actually, if the story I heard on NPR yesterday was correct, the line item 
>veto was passed by Congress during Clinton's presidency, and was around 
>until the Supreme Court held it unconstitutional.
>
>I did not remember this at all; it must be in the same part of my brain as 
>our reasons for being in Iraq.
>
>Bush says his version would be constitutional, though it will have no 
>advance warning that the New Orleans levees might breach during Katrina.
>
>Sunil
>
>
>>From: "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com>
>>To: pkraut at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto
>>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:41:52 -0800
>>
>>To a minor degree you are correct, Ms. Kraut.
>>
>>In 1984, during the Reagan administration, the Republicans pursued and 
>>(after a couple years) realized line-item veto authority.  This authority 
>>remained intact through the Bush (Sr.) administration and into the Clinton

>>administration.  In 1997 the Republicans attempted successfully to 
>>terminate line-item veto authority, claiming it to be unconstitutional.
>>
>>An now . . .
>>
>>Tom Hansen
>>Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>>>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>>>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto
>>>Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:45:22 -0800
>>>
>>>I believe a check of several past administrations would show you that it 
>>>has
>>>been asked for a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>>If we do discover a complete theory..of everything...we shall all,
>>>philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people,
>>>be able to take part in the discussion of why it is that we and the 
>>>universe
>>>exist if we find the answer to that,
>>>it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason...for then we would know
>>>the mind of God.
>>>Stephen Hawking
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:46 AM
>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Bush Seeks Line-Item Veto
>>>
>>>
>>>With a Republican House and a Republican Senate, President Bush is 
>>>seeking
>>>line-item veto authority.
>>>
>>>"Bush has not vetoed any legislation during five years in office, but he
>>>said the line-item veto would help 'reduce wasteful spending, reduce the
>>>budget deficit and ensure that taxpayer dollars are spent wisely.'"
>>>
>>>This is the same president whose running mate stated in 2003 that the 
>>>Iraqi
>>>War would not cost the American tax payer more than $8 billion.
>>>
>>>http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/06/bush.ap/index.html
>>>
>>>Let me remind you of what George Bush said at the end of the presidential
>>>debate conducted on October 8, 2004:
>>>
>>>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Bush_100804.wma
>>>
>>>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>>Tom Hansen
>>>Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the 
>>>tranquil
>>>and steady dedication of a lifetime."
>>>
>>>--Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
>>>
>>>
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