[Vision2020] Remembering Phil

[Jack Van Deventer]

Phil was a class act.  That's what made him so unique on Vision 2020.
Jack


-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Opyr [mailto:joanopyr at moscow.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:20 PM
To: jack at moscowUSA.com
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Remembering Phil

On 4 Mar 2006, at 09:31, Jack Van Deventer wrote:

> In his own words...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:43 PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] To Rose Husky
>
> Yes Joan, it is a slippery slope.  Using the example of the communion 
> wine
> and the insistence that any wine used in a religious ceremony given to
> minors is supposedly a crime as preached by Ted and several others 
> here on
> this particular listserv, Jews would indeed be barred from holding a 
> Pesach
> Seder on University or City Property.  Similarly, Catholics who offer 
> wine
> with their communions would also be barred from such religious practice
> involving those properties.  Only temperance minded religions need 
> apply so
> order up the grade juice.

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Jack Van Deventer:

I object to you dragging up an eight-month old (and long-buried) feud 
between the late Phil Nisbet and myself for your own selfish purposes.  
How tacky can you get?  How inconsiderate of Phil's memory and of his 
family?  Keep it up Jack -- troll the archives, look for spats.  You'll 
find God's own plenty.  But you need to understand that Phil changed 
his mind about a lot of things as time passed, and I changed mine as 
well.  Both the change and the exchange were good for both of us.  As 
Phil and got to know one another better, by heavens, we grew.  Phil 
became a regular and amused listener of The Auntie Establishment and 
Brother Carl Show, and he stopped by the station more than once with 
music, books, and several damned good jokes.  Some we relayed on the 
air; others were unrepeatable.  All were funny.

You want to know something about Phil?  He had your number.  He came to 
understand the threat posed by Dale Courtney, Doug Wilson, Doug Farris, 
Christ Church, and its assorted anti-gay, anti-public schools, 
anti-democratic, authoritarian would-be theocrats.  Phil was a true 
libertarian; a proud Goldwater/Teddy Roosevelt/conservationist 
Republican.  You don't meet many of them these days.  They've slowly 
but surely disappeared to be replaced by the paranoid, imperial, 
Nixonians; the long-winded and short-sighted; the Dick Cheneys and the 
George W. Bushes.

Last week, Phil sent me a lengthy email about his meetings with the Log 
Cabin Republicans.  He wanted us all to unite quickly to defeat Idaho's 
proposed constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.  It ticked him 
off.  It made him see red.  I don't give a damn what Phil had to say on 
July 25, 2005; that was before I knew Phil and before he knew me.

Now, you, Jack -- take a hike.  Some of us have mourning to do.

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com