[Vision2020] Eavesdropping

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Pat,

Do you welcome the police to come and search through your home without a 
warrant?  If they don't find anything, no harm, right?

I know they won't find anything illegal in my house, but for my part, if 
they want to search it, they need a warrant.  That's what required by what's 
left of the Fourth Amendment, and I will hold them to it.

You've written in the past that you have taught the Constitution.  What does 
the Bill of Rights mean to you?  Surely it wasn't written with the 'What are 
you trying to hide?' attitude of your post below.

Sunil


>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eavesdropping
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:19:17 -0800
>
>If you were talking about planting bombs and visiting in the middle east
>then yes your calls could be should be heard. If you called your parents in
>Florida and didn't talk about bombs then they would find that your not who
>they are looking for...it isn't that hard.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com>
>To: <pkraut at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Cc: <idahotom at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eavesdropping
>
>
>Ms. Kraut -
>
>I believe that Mr. Reynolds is suggesting that Mr. Nisbet relay his claim 
>of
>beinig a "victim" of warrantless wiretaps to the media.  A claim, such as
>Mr. Nisbet's (that he was unlawfully wiretapped by the Department of 
>Justice
>during the Clinton administration), would certainly draw some well deserved
>attention.
>
>If my residence were unlawfully wiretapped by the Department of Justice I
>most certainly would not wait a considerable length of time only to discuss
>it on V2020.
>
>Ms. Kraut goes on to ask:
>
>"If a person can buy a throw away cell phone in a store (maybe a[t] Wally
>World!) use if for the two hours there is time for talk about bombs and 
>then
>the number is no longer good how do you think they should get a warrant?"
>
>You know something, Ms. Kraut:  Over the past couple years when I flew down
>to visit my parents in Los Angeles, and before I purchased a cell phone, I
>made use of those throw-away cell phones.  They are inexpense and handy.
>
>Is it your belief that "they" should have detained me simply because I had 
>a
>throw-away cell phone?  Should "they" detain everybody that uses those
>throw-away cell phones?
>
>You see, Ms. Kraut, there is a reason why our founding fathers were kind
>enough to bless our private lives with the US Constitution's fourth
>amendment.
>
>But then, George Bush is not only above the law, HE IS THE LAW and, as
>everybody knows, . . .
>
>"The law is for protection of the people."
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Protection.mp3
>
>"Ah, so thank your lucky stars you got protection
>Walk the line and never mind the cost.
>Don't wonder who them lawmen was protectin',
>When they nailed the saviour to the cross."
>
>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>
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