[Vision2020] RE: The Immorality of Blocking a Supercenter
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 28 04:04:54 PDT 2006
Councilman Dickinson,
Thank you for your response. You are one of the few members of the council that consistently responds to citizens even when you disagree with their concerns, I greatly appreciate this quality in you.
Unfortunately, I am disappointed at your reasoning and decisions that have unfairly and adversely had a greater negative impact on those in our community that are in the most need of the economic prosperity you deny them. I believe that the politics of upper classes of Moscow are being played out over the needs and rights of the middle class, lower class, and students that are in desperate need of these jobs and lower prices for basic goods and services.
You wrote:
" The vote was not about Wal-Mart (which could not be mentioned at the meetings)."
Yes, but it was fully known by the Council, P&Z Board and the general public that Wal-Mart was the interested in the property in question. In fact, there were leaders of anti Wal Mart efforts in the community attending and reporting to followers on the progress and results of those hearings. I think it was clear to all but the simplest of minds that this was about a Supercenter being located off of Troy Highway. Your vote did result in the removal of Moscow as being a considered location for the Supercenter. That is clear I think to everyone.
"As others have said, I dont think that any particular development required the entire property."
I see. So you think that a business, or businesses should be limited to the exact size they need, and no more, no other logical reasons then you don't think they need it? How do you know that a business may not wish to grow, expand, or provide more parking spaces in the future rather then moving to a new location and creating a large empty dark building? Shouldn't a business be free to decide what it needs or does need in the providing of services to its customers?
"I dont think we can be accused of being anti-Wal-Mart, Moscow has a Wal-Mart."
I am not talking about being anti Wal-Mart. There are many reasons to be opposed to some of the practices of Wal-Mart and most major large companies and some that I think that the City has an obligation to address. My concern is for actions of the Council that are anti-people. People need jobs, as well as access to affordable goods and services. They also need a greater tax base, rather then it falling on home dwellers all the time.
"There are discussions about sizes of retail stores. I think discussions are good; there are many points of view to consider."
John, retail businesses have to move high volumes in order to make a profit. To limit the size of retail stores only serves to drive the price up making goods and services, like toilet paper, food, clothing, that people need less affordable. That hurts the poorer and underprivileged residents of Moscow more. People making less than 24K a year, 1/2 the population of Moscow, spend most their income on these goods and services already. Your actions are hurting people regardless of how you try to politically justify it.
Second, it is also highly discriminatory to limit just the size of general retail stores impeding their ability to run a business to meet customer demand and make a profit large enough to pay workers a livable wage, while allowing all other businesses as much space as possible for them to be successful. Punishing business for being successful and wanting to expand to meet the needs and demands of Moscow residents is counterproductive to the interests of the community. Nobody wants bigger stores, but nobody wants more cars on the road either, should we ban the number of cars that can be sold in the city too?
"We cannot preserve Moscows character by freezing the community. But I do think that the community can and should continue to ask questions about every development, lot division, street improvement, budget line item, i.e. everything because this is your community and we all want to pass it on to our childrens children in a form that they would be proud to live in."
We are not freezing it John, we are discriminating against certain groups of people in our community, choking off opportunities, and making unreasonable demands on business owners. It costs money and resources to invest in a community and get a business going, most fail even when the government doesn't impede them. When the the City over regulates things to the point when even the most powerful and industrialist companies cannot afford to deal with your regulations and standards, who is left? What was the last major employer to come to Moscow, John? The proof is in the pudding.
The government does not need to regulate the angle of every light bulb, the size of every parking lot, the bending of every blade of grass, and the roll of every pebble. Maybe what some people want is to live in a city where they have the individual power and freedom to be able to turn on a light switch, water their lawn, and do a few things without a government committee to oversee them and tell them how to do it.
Best Regards,
Donovan J Arnold
Moscow Resident
John Dickinson <johnd at moscow.com> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Donovan,
I disagree with most of what you say, mostly because you begin many of your concerns with premises that I disagree with, so I will concentrate on just a few of your points.
Recent City Council actions regarded the rezoning of a large chink of land into a single type of commercial zone. The Planning and Zoning Commission had reviewed this request earlier. The decision by City Council was the same as the decision by P&Z. I think that all of us expected the developers to return with a more interesting way of using the entire property (that was the suggestion of P&Z and Council). As others have said, I dont think that any particular development required the entire property.
The vote was not about Wal-Mart (which could not be mentioned at the meetings). I would have loved to have gotten to the stage where we could have discussed the design of a specific store we have never gotten to that point. Informal conversations I have had with my brother, Pete Dickinson Pullman City Planner, and others have enlightened me to the variety of designs that Wal-Mart (and I assume other stores of this type) use.
I dont think we can be accused of being anti-Wal-Mart, Moscow has a Wal-Mart. There are discussions about sizes of retail stores. I think discussions are good; there are many points of view to consider.
I dont think that Moscow is anti-business. I dont believe that it is responsible government to say Yes to every development without question whether it be residential or commercial. I thought that the results of both the P&Z and the Council were positive messages to the developers. Their public statements led me to this conclusion.
We cannot preserve Moscows character by freezing the community. But I do think that the community can and should continue to ask questions about every development, lot division, street improvement, budget line item, i.e. everything because this is your community and we all want to pass it on to our childrens children in a form that they would be proud to live in.
John Dickinson
Moscow City Council
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From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:27 AM
To: aaronament at moscow.com; lpall at moscow.com; bstout at ci.moscow.id.us; blambert at ci.moscow.id.us; jweber at ci.moscow.id.us; johnd at moscow.com; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: The Immorality of Blocking a Supercenter
Dear Mayor Chaney and members of the City Council,
I am writing you regarding the recent decision of the City to block a Wal-Mart Supercenter. I believe such a decision is damaging to most of the residents of Moscow and the surrounding community, but particularly its most vulnerable for several reasons.
First, Wal-Mart has a starting wage of $8-$9 an hour. This is a significantly higher wage then what other grocery stores, retail outlets, and even the City have established as a starting wage. Even the Co-Op pays 18% less than Wal-Mart. I challenge the Mayor and members of the City Council, or any resident to find a grocery or general retail store that pays a higher starting wage in our local community. With the City rejecting the businesses that pay higher wages, the City is expressing that it believes $5.15 is an acceptable wage for the people of Moscow. A Wal-Mart Supercenter would provide more jobs that pay higher wage while also requiring other employees to pay their workers a similar livable wage if they desire to keep quality workers.
Second, a Wal-Mart Supercenter provides goods and services not otherwise offered in the Moscow area. Millions of dollars are lost every year to Pullman, Lewiston, Spokane, and the Internet because the City is blocking retail outlets from selling those products. A Supercenter would offer more goods and services to the people of Moscow while keeping tax dollars and jobs here in Moscow where they belong.
Third, A Wal-Mart Supercenter would offer goods and services at a lower cost to members of the community because it can move high volume and has the infrastructure to do so efficiently. With an average salary of only $24,000 a year for Moscow residents, and an annual household income of about $30,000 for Latah households, costs need to be lower, not higher. Moscow residents have to pay more for goods and services already because of a lack of competition, the cost of shipping a low volume of goods a long distance, and a lack of capital in investments in roads and infrastructure to do it effectively. To punish Moscow residents with an added transportation tax by making them drive to another town to get the items they need at an affordable price is another unnecessary burden inflicted on the people by the City.
Fourth, Moscow loses even more jobs. When Moscow blocks one business that puts resources into trying to locate here, it blocks two more that decide not to attempt as a result. The City has developed a far reaching reputation that it does not want businesses here. That hurts the residents of Moscow.
Fifth, we lose anyway. The City of Moscow will simply lose to Pullman, Latah, or Whitman County. We will still have all the negative impacts of having a Wal-Mart Supercenter but without the tax dollars, jobs, and surrounding businesses that prosper from close proximity to the new store.
Finally, I think there are diversity and equality issues that are being ignored. The people that have the most difficulty getting and keeping a job at a decent wage are minorities, the elderly, and the disabled. Wal-Mart has successfully employed these individuals in higher numbers than anyone else. Many small businesses do not high the elderly and disabled in any greater numbers than they have to because they fear medical and retirement costs. Minorities have always been discriminated against. I think it sends a clear message to other businesses in the community when the most successful retail outlet in the world does so by hiring in higher numbers people other businesses wont hire because of age, ethnicity, or disability. The city has a moral obligation to not bar businesses that employ and give opportunities to those other businesses only hire out of fear of the law, rather than acknowledging that they have real value and skills that make a business
successful. For the City to block the greatest opportunities for the elderly, poor, disabled, and minorities is discrimination. The only people allowed by our City leaders to make a decent living wage in our community appears to be the wealthy members that have the capital to create and expand their own businesses and are allowed to employ everyone else for a slave wage of $5.15 an hour.
I ask that the Mayor and members of the City Council reconsider and allow a Supercenter into our community. Blocking commerce hurts both the seller and buyer, and the buyers are the residents of Moscow. Blocking higher starting wages in our community hurts the poorest. Shutting down, slowing down, removing, and blocking employers that hire the disabled, elderly, and minorities, hurts the elderly, disabled, and minorities. I hope you will consider these facts as the county and University lose population and the number of people in Moscow continue to live a lower quality of life in comparison to rest of the state and nation.
Best Regards,
Donovan J Arnold
Moscow Resident
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