[Vision2020] answering g. crabtree
Deacon James
deaconjames at verizon.net
Mon Jun 26 23:54:54 PDT 2006
Tom Hansen,
The A's have been playing uncharacteristically well for this time of year; normally they don't start going on a tear until a week or two after the All-Star Break. My guess is that they will taper off a month early as well. They have clearly been overacheiving. But, hey, even if they do make the playoffs, they'll just get beat in the first round, so that's of some comfort to this M's fan.
Oscar Charleston was certainly an incredible baseball player, beloved of both fans and players. I have no doubt that he would have put up incredible numbers in the majors, but, regretably, we will never know just how well the Negro Leaguers would have compared. The level of competition, the quality and measurements of the fields, poor/non-existant/inconsistent scoring, and more all contributed to the poor collection of Negro League statistics that we have.
That said, I would still say that Charleston is one of the top ten -- maybe top five -- greatest players in the history of the game. And heck, I don't even know if he was Protestant...
Take care,
D
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From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Date: Mon Jun 26 22:37:42 CDT 2006
To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>, 'Bill London' <london at moscow.com>,
'Austin Storm' <austinstorm at gmail.com>,
'Joe Campbell' <joekc at adelphia.net>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com, 'keely emerinemix' <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] answering g. crabtree
It is my opinion, GC, that Bill London(like many of us) doubts Doug Wilsons sincerity in his recently acquiredphilosophy, since he (Wilson) continues to promote near-subjugation of allbeings that do not fit into his tightly knit male White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestantworld. A wasp is a wasp is a wasp is a wasp is a . . .
In effect, GC, we do embrace the non-slaverymessage that Wilsonhas recently expressed. It is the messenger we question. The reasonwe doubt Wilsons sincerity is reflectedin Wilsonsinsincere and tainted history. It is strongly believed, and supported,that what he says publicly does not mirror desires he expresses behind closeddoors.
Concerning any comments I have made in thepast, I have absolutely no reservations to re-reading them here if you care topost any. My comments have undergone tougher scrutiny than any inspectionyou are capable of mustering. So . . . Please, help yourself.
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
Footnote to Deacon James The OaklandAthletics lead the American League Western Division by a game and a half withthe All Star break a week and a half away. Another Note: If youwere to look up the statistics of Oscar Charleston for the seasons 1917 thru1926, you might find that Hack Wilson RBI count would merely be considered faircompetition. But then Hack Wilson would have never played against OscarCharleston. You see, Charlestonplayed for the Homestead Grays of the Negro National League.
"Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Deathdoesn't seem too extreme for a Level-3 sex offender."
- Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney(August 3, 2005)
From:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of g. crabtree
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:31PM
To: Bill London; Austin Storm; JoeCampbell
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; keelyemerinemix
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]answering g. crabtree
Bill, lets stretch the boarders of our imagination, sansCUP, and assume for a moment that you are absolutely correct (doubtful)and that you're not taking isolated passages out of context. Why do you notembrace the revised position? Why do you insist on castigating someonefor a previously held notion. I would certainly hate to be judged solely onremarks I've made in the past and I suspect that you and the rest of theCC critics wouldn't be all that wild about it either. Or is it just a lot morefun to selectively pick and choose whatever supports your ongoing bias.
gc
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