[Vision2020] Sitler, Wilson, and Pooh Bear

Thu Jun 8 22:19:26 PDT 2006

"Because Joseph was a righteous man, he resolved to put Mary away quietly. 
Love covers a multitude of sins."

A/  Mary did NOT commit a sin that would make it necessary to "put her 
away."  That was what Joseph was told by HIS PASTOR, God.  The Love that 
"covers a multitude of sins" is the Love that God showed by having his Son 
become man and die for our sins.  Are you purporting that Mary was not also 
righteous?!  Are you also saying that you "helped" put Sitler away to cover 
his "multitude of sins?"

"A certain select number of visionaries claim to have been gifted with 
telepathic powers, and so they somehow know that every last child in our 
church was at risk. "

B/  I'm sorry, did I miss an e-mail that claimed one/all of us were 
telepathic or had telepathic powers?  No!  All that has been said is what 
the TRAINED psychologist and psychiatrist have said - child sexual abusers 
offend and re-offend and re-offend....Most are verra good at hiding it for 
years, sometimes for their entire lives.  How?  Partly because they take on 
roles in their given community (the church, for instance) and play-act verra 
well.  How many times has a neighbor said on the evening news "We thought he 
was a great guy - who knew?!" after the fact?  The difference with the 
Sitler/Wight cases is that YOU knew and you still chose to believe and act 
and say "But we had (and have) no reason to believe this to be the case. 
When he was discovered, /everyone /who needed to know (legal authorities, 
potentially affected families, et al) were promptly notified, and all 
according to Hoyle. "  Whose "Hoyle", Dougie....you need to look at getting 
another one, 'cause your is broken.  Of course that was AFTER you repeatedly 
denied there was even an issue of sexual abuse in the church, much less TWO 
of them.

"...it rapidly became obvious to me that some people I am responsible for 
were getting hurt. And that was why I decided that Michael needed to get 
popped a couple times, in public,...."

C/  So Sitler/Wight did NOT deserve to "get popped a couple of times, in 
public to slow down or possibly stop his (their) disgraceful public 
behavior?"  Michael gets to be the scape-goat for a mistaken identity, is 
that it?  'Cause you certainly have the wrong idea as to whose "disgraceful 
public behavior" needed to be stopped.

Again, I see you making this an issue of Michael vs. Dougie or Dougie vs. 
his "enemies" and it just isn't!  Sitler, Wight and Doug Wilson are who are 
in the wrong - verra big wrong - in this situation.  And many 
children/families have been put at risk because of those wrongs.

I find it verra interesting that even in this letter and others like it, you 
have spent little time or none, talking or justifying your actions regarding 
the Jamin Wight case...funny, but you don't even seem to have written him 
the kind (or ANY) letter to the judges that you did Sitler...what did the 
golden-haired-boy of yours and CC do to rate so low on your radar?  How many 
times do you go see him and give him the kind of counsel that Sitler seems 
privy to?  Are you "counseling" the girl/family involved in this case or 
again is that just for the select few of Sitler's case that gets to put up 
with that?

Face it Dougie - you are a liar, a deceiver, a con-man of the highest 
ilk...you are NOT righteous and until you repent of YOUR sins in this, you 
will always have trouble, tripping over yourself trying to make everyone 
believe you have their best interest at the fore-front of your thoughts.

J  :]

>From: Douglas <dougwils at christkirk.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler, Wilson, and Pooh Bear
>Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:25:47 -0700
>
>Terry,
>
>The rule of thumb is always to have the application of grace and justice, 
>forgiveness and consequences, be as public as the nature of the sin 
>requires it to be -- and no more. Because Joseph was a righteous man, he 
>resolved to put Mary away quietly. Love covers a multitude of sins. At the 
>same time, this is clearly not a solitary absolute because there are other 
>competing claims, equally legitimate. In the case we are discussing, the 
>protection of others is one of those claims. Civil justice for past crimes 
>is another.
>
>Steven Sitler's crimes were contained within a limited circle. A certain 
>select number of visionaries claim to have been gifted with telepathic 
>powers, and so they somehow know that every last child in our church was at 
>risk. But we had (and have) no reason to believe this to be the case. When 
>he was discovered, /everyone /who needed to know (legal authorities, 
>potentially affected families, et al) were promptly notified, and all 
>according to Hoyle. As the process unfolded, and Steven was convicted, it 
>became necessary to broaden the circle of those who knew about it. 
>Conviction of a crime like this is a public event, Steven was known in our 
>community, and we did not know how the sentencing would go. It was quite 
>possible that as a result of the sentencing Steven would wind up living 
>among us again, and this required broader notification, which was given /as 
>soon as/ it became necessary. Not before.
>
>But take another kind of situation. If a well-respected deacon in a church 
>began robbing banks occasionally, and he was arrested, his resignation from 
>the deacon board could not be announced to the congregation under the 
>heading of "events overtook him." When the sin is public, or private sin 
>disqualifies a man from public office, you don't spread it any further than 
>his arrest or resignation already spread it. But you do have to address the 
>issue (with as much discretion as possible) in order to comfort and help 
>all the people already affected. I trust that at least makes the principle 
>clear.
>
>But remember where we are. If you are Michael, you take a tragic situation 
>like the Sitler case, and you throw bloody meat into the water (despite 
>ignored warnings), not because you wanted to draw /sharks/, for heaven's 
>sake, but rather because you wanted to see if that kind of meat floats. 
>When the inevitable sharks came anyway, and began their visionary 
>activities, it rapidly became obvious to me that some people I am 
>responsible for were getting hurt. And that was why I decided that Michael 
>needed to get popped a couple times, in public, to slow down or possibly 
>stop his disgraceful public behavior.
>
>Doing this does not question the "basic dignity of a man made in the image 
>of God," but rather presupposes it. Michael is certainly created in the 
>image of God, and bears the name of Christ in his baptism, as do you. I 
>would love to be in fellowship with Michael, and with you. And because you 
>and I are both created in God's image, and both forgiven by Christ, we 
>should be able to get together and discuss our differences calmly enough. 
>Can I buy you a beer?
>
>Douglas Wilson
>
>
>Michael has been misbehaving in grotesque ways in a public manner, and is 
>not repentant. His confusions have now drastically affected the lives of 
>others, and so he needs to be told to stop it. As much as Joan
>
>Terry Morin wrote:
>>Doug,
>>The aphorism about sucking and blowing could be applied to you as well. 
>>During the same period of time in which you kept a veil of secrecy around 
>>the Sitler matter, even from your own congregation, you felt the need to 
>>make public the names and relevant details of a moral failure involving 
>>local persons not even in attendance at your church. Your public exposure 
>>of the matter included broadly circulated letters and announcements from 
>>the pulpit. Your concern for the broader Christian community trumped any 
>>sensitivities of the families involved, even though the adults involved 
>>were repentant, and represented no danger to anyone. In the Sitler matter, 
>>your priorities are reversed, that is, your perception of the needs of a 
>>family (families?) trump all other considerations, such as notifying your 
>>church in order to identify other victims. So from your own history, 
>>handling these matters involves a series of judgment calls, and it’s your 
>>judgment that’s being questioned here, not your sanity or basic dignity of 
>>a man made in the image of God. Please extend that courtesy to Michael.
>>--
>>Terry and Linda Morin
>>1232 Tamarack Drive
>>Moscow, ID 83843
>>208.882.6251
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