[Vision2020] Ped/Bike transportation options

Fri Jun 2 14:36:15 PDT 2006

Yes, there was.

Turns out the maintenance was more than expected 
and usage was less than expected.

And I seem to recall a liability insurance issue.

At 10:36 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote:
>Wasn't there something like that in the area around the UI outdoor track?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ped/Bike transportation options
> > Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:07:17 -0700
> >
> >
> > While living in other states and even on base in Germany, I
> > remember that some of the parks were actually called "Excercise
> > Parks"...what was neat about them was that every 1/2 mile or so,
> > there was an excercise station and that depending on the site, gave
> > instructions as well as provided actual activity equipment; i.e.,
> > on station one, you could walk the beam (4"), station two, you
> > would do jumping jacks, station three you did sit-ups,  station
> > four you'd work on the "monkey bars, etc.  Anyone into exploring
> > that for Moscow?  It would allow for a pleasant and self-paced
> > routine that could resolve two issues - excercise and getting to
> > work in good shape and attitude.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > J  :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> > > To: Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com>
> > > CC: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ped/Bike transportation options
> > > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:40:14 -0700
> > >
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > > I didn't mean to suggest that your forms of recreation were
> > > somehow inferior to my own. I don't believe that and I didn't
> > > mean to suggest it.
> > >
> > > I do not ride my bike as a form of recreation. You've seen my
> > > beer gut so it shouldn't be too hard to believe. I ride my bike
> > > as a form of travel to work. The plea is not that you should pay
> > > for trails so that I can have more fun. The point is we all
> > > should invest in alternative forms of travel and that, as a
> > > community, it would be a worthwhile investment. Better, safer
> > > places to walk or ride bikes and buses would encourage more
> > > people to do so, especially if they knew that they weren't asked
> > > to foot the bill themselves. Less traffic, less polution,
> > > increased safty, more exercise. I don't see the downside with
> > > this proposal.
> > >
> > > Again it is just a proposal and I'm open to hearing why it is a
> > > bad one if indeed it is. If I were comparing recreation
> > > activities, I'd ask you to help me pay for a new softball bat but
> > > that is not what I am asking. I'm suggesting that it is in the
> > > community's best interest to help me and others get to work more
> > > safely than I do now. Encouraging alternative forms of travel by
> > > making trails and safer walkways is a community good. If not, why
> > > not?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joe Campbell
> > >
> > > ---- Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > =============
> > > (forgive me if this is a repeat, I seem to be having those "lost post"
> > > issues . . .)
> > >
> > > Joe says:
> > > "It is worth pointing out that riding bikes is good for individual heath
> > > and good for the environment. The same is not true of ORV trails."
> > >
> > > I don't wanna go down the "good/bad for the environment" road.  The
> > > impact is negligible at best.  Don't pick on my recreation and I won't
> > > pick on yours.  I take responsibility for my actions.  I recreate (is
> > > that even a word?) responsibly.  I won't lump you with your bad apples
> > > if you don't lump me with mine.  Besides, where do a lot of those trails
> > > that people are hiking and biking on come from?  ORV dollars.  You're
> > > welcome.
> > >
> > > As far as individual health, I can honestly say I've gotten some pretty
> > > good workouts on my dirt bike.  Yes, it would have been much harder to
> > > go those 70 miles on a pedal bike, but . . .
> > >
> > > Then Joe says:
> > > "We don't want to penalize people for choosing these options"
> > >
> > > I don't think of it as a "penalty".  I think of it as taking
> > > responsibility.  Yes, stepping up and donating to the trail foundation
> > > is one way, but it would be nice to have an "account", so to speak, like
> > > the ORV trail dollars work (in my limited understanding).  Then there'd
> > > be another funding source to help buy more right-of-way to make more
> > > bike/non-motorized/multi-use trails throughout Moscow and Latah County.
> > >
> > > Hey, I'm just thinkin' out loud.
> > >
> > > DC
> > >
> > >
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