[Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 28 08:15:50 PDT 2006
I have to side with Dick S. and Donovan Arnold on this one. Which is
ironic, because I'm guessing that ideologically we differ on many
issues. Ditto Doug Wilson. However, in my opinion, they happen to be
right. Doug Wilson has every right to go to the police if he's being
harassed as he says he is. That's one of the reasons they exist. It's
also juvenile to call him a "whiner" or to belittle him for doing it.
If Doug Wilson is making this up and filing false police reports, and we
had proof of this, that would be a different story. As it stands,
though, it's just speculation. We might as well speculate on whether or
not he's been abducted by aliens and replaced with an exact duplicate.
Besides, if I were trying to frame somebody I would show some faked
evidence, such as a tire with a nail I put in it myself.
It's fine if you don't agree with his theology, or don't like his future
vision for Moscow, or don't like the kind of car he drives - just
remember that he is to be afforded the same rights that you yourself
would want to have if it happened to you.
Paul
rvrcowboy wrote:
>Mr. Ford,
>
>I do not understand your vile attitude, not only toward Doug Wilson, but
>also toward anyone who advocates that he be afforded the same rights and
>privileges as anyone else. Donovan only suggested that Mr. Wilson be
>afforded the same rights as any other citizen and be allowed to pursue the
>protection of his own property through the legal system. If he is pressing
>charges against others frivolusly that should become apparent in the follow
>up to the charges.
>
>Perhaps your own life would be more serene if you let the law handle Mr.
>Wilson's case and devoted your time to something more productive. Your
>complete hatred toward Wilson has become obvious to all and now you are
>letting it spill over onto others who only differ in opinion from you about
>anything concerning Doug Wilson.
>
>Your reply to Mr. Arnold, for example, hints of a threat, actual or not. It
>reminds me of when my daughter was very young and rejected some of her
>friends to please others who did not like them. It was childish of her then
>and it is childish of you now.
>
>I am sure you can come back with some nasty remarks for me but please
>believe me, I am not trying to condem you, only to point out to you how
>silly, childish and full of venom you often sound.
>
>Dick S.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
>
>
>
>
>>You made statements the other day that Wilson had these incidents video
>>taped...I asked you THEN to prove what you are saying and you have not.
>>
>>
>Now
>
>
>>this. IF you know something that these four named do not know or that
>>
>>
>even
>
>
>>the POLICE do not know - prove it. Otherwise, I STRONGLY suggest you shut
>>your trap.
>>
>>I realize you are very tempted to step into things that you have no
>>knowledge of or part in because it fits some need in you to do so. But I
>>believe this is one (of many) fights you need to stay out of. Dougie-boy
>>does not need your help in his whining nor in the singing of his
>>"Oh-my-gosh-I-am-so-persecuted" theme song.
>>
>>
>>J :]
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>>To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>, Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com>,
>>> "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
>>>Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Although Doug Wilson's statement can be easily reduced to one word
>>>(WAAAH!), a friend of mine described it more appropriately when comparing
>>>it to
>>>little Johnny at Rosauers tugging on his mommy's dress complaining that
>>>somebody made a face at him."--Tom Hansen
>>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>Are you suggesting that if someone complains about 4 of their tires being
>>>slashed,
>>>that they are just a whiny baby?
>>>
>>>You must be twice the man as most people, because most people would
>>>
>>>
>report
>
>
>>>that
>>>incident to the police. They wouldn't just shrug their shoulders and
>>>
>>>
>laugh
>
>
>>>at the "teenage prank".
>>>I would be making as much noise as I could, otherwise it would keep
>>>happening.
>>>
>>>For some that seems so CONCERNED about the LAW, I would think you would
>>>support the reporting, pursuit
>>>and arrest, and forced repayment from the individual(s) responsible.
>>>
>>>To be honest, I think you and the gal that did this are the only ones on
>>>this list that think reporting four slashed tires
>>>to the police is a bad idea and just whining.
>>>
>>>I think you are letting Vandal Spirit spread to far outside the ball
>>>
>>>
>court.
>
>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>> _DJA
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote: Greetings Visionaires -
>>>
>>>The website concerning the police report filed by Doug Wilson on July 18,
>>>2006 has been updated to include the handwritten statement signed by Doug
>>>Wilson.
>>>
>>>Although Doug Wilson's statement can be easily reduced to one word
>>>(WAAAH!),
>>>a friend of mine described it more appropriately when comparing it to
>>>little
>>>Johnny at Rosauers tugging on his mommy's dress complaining that somebody
>>>made a face at him.
>>>
>>>But then, why not let you fine people reach your own conclusions:
>>>
>>>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
>>>
>>>There are 20,000 stories in the naked city. This isn't any of them.
>>>
>>>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>>Tom Hansen
>>>Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>*******************************************************
>>>
>>>"If the law is to be respected it must first be respectable. There will
>>>never be respect for our laws without enforcement, equal enforcement."
>>>
>>>- dick Sherwin (May 3, 2006)
>>>
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