[Vision2020] The Great Debate

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 13 20:04:37 PDT 2006


"......Who decides what we will follow word for word in the Bible and what 
we won't?"

Em, Dougie - 'cause he's been doing so for 30(+) years and that makes him 
qualified to make those kinds of decisions.

J  :]




>From: "kerry becker" <kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>
>To: rvrcowboy at clearwire.net, vision2020 at moscow.com, sdredge at yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:08:31 -0700
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>This is what I can never understand.  How do we (society) decide what we 
>will follow traditionally in the Bible and what things can/should be 
>changed or adapted?
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>Homosexuality is a sin but there are over 600 sins listed in the bible!  We 
>don't stone or sacrifice anymore because we've developed and changed as a 
>society, yet homosexuality is still a sticking point.  I don't get it.  Who 
>decides what we will follow word for word in the Bible and what we won't?
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>From: "rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>
>To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Scott Dredge" 
><sdredge at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:35:09 -0700
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>Scott,
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>I respectfully disagree with you that there are no victims where 
>homosexuality is concerned.  That is a topic we can cover at another time 
>if you like.  Let's just say, for now, that it is not always between 
>consenting adults and there are other ramifications stemming from it.  
>Perhaps some of my feelings will be revealed to you when I finally get my 
>answer to the Chas letter written.
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>That having been said, the topic was not originally just about 
>homosexuality but about sin in general, at least that was my take on it.  
>The question being:  Is homosexuality a Biblical sin?
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>I believe it is.  As I stated in my post; I don't see how any rational 
>person could reach any other conclusion from reading any translation of the 
>Bible.  I also stated that I am no Biblical scholar, so I could be 
>mistaken.
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>When I spoke of adultry, rape, stealing, etc., I was merely making a point 
>that these are also sins and that homosexuality should not be made a 
>greater sin than any of them.  I will also speak my opinion more succinctly 
>about these matters in my answer to Chas.
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>I suppose my answer to you, in a nutshell, would be that my opinion about 
>what is and is not sin does not carry much weight.  The question before us 
>is whether the Bible (thus God) considers these things sins.  I believe it 
>(He) does.
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>I hope this clarifies my original post for you.
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>Peace,
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>Dick S.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott Dredge
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate
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>rvcowboy,
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>There are clearly victims involved in situations of adultery, rape, 
>cheating, and stealing.  Not so with homosexuality.  Are you really unable 
>to see the difference between consenual adult activity and scenarios of 
>someone viciously hurting someone else?
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>-Scott
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>"rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote:
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>I agree with you that Jesus' overwhelming
>message is that we love one another.  I just don't believe that loving one 
>another justifies our
>sins.  Please understand, I don't rate the sin of homosexuality any 
>differently than adultrey,
>rape, cheating, stealing, or any other sin.
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