[Vision2020] Still more slander from Crabtree

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Wed Jul 5 17:45:22 PDT 2006


It would be hard to believe that critical Googlers would not recognize the 
opinions expressed on "right mind" to be anything but the pathetic excuses 
and rationalizations of someone with major problems.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <joekc at adelphia.net>; <jampot at adelphia.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <daniel at lyonministries.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Still more slander from Crabtree


>I sympathize with Joe Campbell, having  had the unfortunate experience of 
>having someone "Google" my name and find the first several references in 
>Courtney's website.  Most are unflattering, mean-spirited, and crass; some 
>are also outright lies of fact.  I don't mind at all that Dale doesn't much 
>like me -- I'm relieved, frankly -- but I've confronted him privately and 
>publicly, in person and over the web (he won't answer my phone calls), 
>asking that he acknowledge and apologize for the lies, and he won't.
>
> A Kirk friend of mine suggested just last week that I bring him up on 
> "charges" to his elders -- charges that he broke the 8th commandment 
> against bearing false witness.  But does it really seem likely that the 
> boys from whom he receives accolades for his blog efforts would ever 
> correct or admonish him for something he posts on his blog -- especially 
> when it's against a liberal provacateur and CC critic such as myself? 
> Hmmmmmmmmmm.  Nope, I'm not thinkin' that'd do much good.  Dale knows he's 
> lied about me and has refused to repent.  That he continues to take 
> communion is really between him and God.  Unfortunately, that conversation 
> isn't on record, can't be disseminated to panting sycophants, and won't 
> come up when you Google the Blogmeister.  But for people who do end up on 
> Dale's blog, presence on Right Mind is no guarantee that references to 
> them will be either right or mindful.
>
> keely
>
> keely
>
>
>
>
> From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Daniel Foucachon <daniel at lyonministries.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Still more slander from Crabtree
> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:45:42 -0700
>
> My desktop dictionary defines ‘slander’ as a false or malicious 
> statement that damages somebody’s reputation.
>
> I make my living as a teacher of logic, as a writer of philosophy, and as 
> an editor for MIT Press. Below you claim that Courtney "points out some of 
> [my] error and inconsistency." I hate to tell you Crabtree but these 
> statements, made by Courtney first and then repeated by you, are false, 
> malicious, and damaging to my reputation. And if you think otherwise, then 
> point out the error and inconsistency to which you refer.
>
> Prior to writing Courtney I was contacted by a philosopher in California 
> who happened to google my name and have Courney's website come up. I have 
> a national reputation, Crabtree, and the unsupported accusations, on 
> public websites, from Courtney and now you are not doing it any good.
>
> Similar comments can be made about your remarks toward Stout but since I 
> don't want to repeat them in an effort to make my case -- and since J has 
> done a fine job responding to you anyway -- I'll let it go.
>
> I just wish you would put people before politics and stop making 
> unsupported negative claims about individuals just because you happen to 
> disagree with them. Call me an optimist!
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> I believe that I have read just about everything on Mr. Courtney's site 
> that
> mentions Joe Campbell and I don't recall seeing anything that rises to the
> level of oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's
> reputation. Would you care to point out exactly what Dale has posted that
> would cause you to make such an allegation? Or are you simply upset 
> because
> he points out some of your error and inconsistency. Being embarrassed is
> quite a different thing from being slandered.
>
> gc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> To: "Daniel Foucachon" <daniel at lyonministries.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] My Pictures
>
>
> > Daniel,
> >
> > You don't mind that your pictures are on Dale's website. Dale's website
> > slanders me. The implication is that you don't respect me, which is
> > strange since we've never even met!
> >
> > --
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > ---- Daniel Foucachon <daniel at lyonministries.com> wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > I want to clarify something. I don't mind people using my pictures. I
> like
> > seeing them used, and am blessed when others are blessed by them. If
> > someone
> > wanted to use one of my pictures on a "The Beautiful Palouse" site, I
> > would
> > be more than glad for them to use it, though I would appreciate if they
> > asked first.
> >
> > But I don't want my pictures used on sites that slander places or people
> > that I respect.
> >
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