[Vision2020] Moscow Ordinance 2002-13 aka The "Topless" Ordinance

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 3 00:52:01 PDT 2006


"....."progressive" buddies along with their hand picked (and paid for) city 
council people"?

Care to explain this statement?  I mean, you sound like you're making a 
charge - mayhap you can back it up or are you going to let it go as is?

J  :]




>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>To: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Ordinance 2002-13 aka The "Topless" 
>Ordinance
>Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 15:54:33 -0700
>
>Mrs. Lund, why is that when the CC critics and their various "progressive" 
>buddies along with their hand picked (and paid for) city council people 
>attempt to impose their will on a collective Moscow, in the form of NSA/CC 
>harassment, unionization of city employees or anti-growth measures, it's 
>democracy at work but when A decency ordinance is passed, with the support 
>of several local congregations and five non CC council members, an 
>ordinance that is similar to many others across the nation, it's 
>"ridiculous and reactionary," and a case of ramming through bad law and 
>using undo pressure as well as contributory to making Moscow a laughing 
>stock? And all because of Doug Wilson? I seem to sense a serious double 
>standard at work here. Again.
>
>I also really don't recall there being a feeling of desperation in the air 
>when Ord. 2002-13 was enacted and am certain that a lynch mob mentality was 
>not at work. To refer to goings on surrounding the enactment of the topless 
>ordinance as a sacrificial crisis is to grossly overstate matters in an 
>attempt to make a tenuous, to the point of nonexistent argument. If the 
>majority of Moscow truly feels that they were "steamrolled," it should be 
>fairly easy to have this odious piece of law making repealed. Perhaps 
>you'll have citizen/councilman Ament bring this urgent matter up at the 
>next council meeting? Maybe Mr. Stout would like to champion this important 
>cause for you? Remember what happens if good people do nothing.
>
>gc
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:42 AM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow Ordinance 2002-13 aka The "Topless" Ordinance
>
>
>>Visionaries:
>>
>>I got an email today from a friend who worked with the group which tried 
>>to
>>overturn Moscow's ridiculous and reactionary topless ordinance that was
>>rammed through due to pressure from the Christ Church "PAC."
>>
>>My friend sent me a link to an entry on Doug Wilson's blog and thought it
>>did an excellent job of explaining the Christ Church's role in that mess
>>that steamrolled over the beliefs of the majority of our community:
>>
>>"Those who stir up strife in towns, churches, cities, or nations are 
>>trying
>>to create a situation when everyone will get to a point of desperation, 
>>and
>>then try to resolve the problem with some kind of dramatic action. That
>>dramatic action is sudden, forceful, fascinating, and its effects are very
>>potent . . . and temporary.
>>
>>This is why mobs function the way they do. This is how lynching occurs. .
>>.But it is a pseudo-salvation. It is a lie. When this kind of person
>>succeeds in stirring up a sacrificial crisis, he gets the mob, or the 
>>crowd,
>>or the presbytery, or the congregation, as the case may be, whipped up 
>>into
>>a sacrificial crisis and ready for a dramatic solution to all the trouble. 
>>"
>>http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&CategoryID=1&BlogID=2510
>>
>>Indeed.
>>
>>A law was passed that AFAIK to this day has *never* been enforced. 
>>However,
>>it did manage to make Moscow, Idaho a national laughing stock  :-(
>>
>>I have to agree with my friend . . . and I also have to wonder why Wilson
>>doesn't see himself in his own words  :-(
>>
>>
>>Saundra Lund
>>Moscow, ID
>>
>>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>>nothing.
>>- Edmund Burke
>>
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>>Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum
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