Fwd: RE: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: ThepledgeControve

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 27 16:30:05 PST 2006


Ok, but when was the last time it was tried (making an application to ITD?)  
And is Mt. View considered a highway or under the jurisdiction of ITD?  Does 
that mean 3rd, 6th, D, are as well?  Is there someway to get that 
designation changed if they are?

J  :]




>From: Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Fwd: RE: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: 
>ThepledgeControversy/more pressing concerns)
>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:22:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>A good point made by Stephanie.
>
>Note: forwarded message attached.
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>From: "Stephanie Kalasz" <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us>
>To: "Tom Ivie" <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: 
>ThepledgeControversy/more pressing concerns)
>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:51:20 -0800
>Keep in mind that anything on a highway requires ITD approval, the City
>Council could recommend, but can't just have something installed.  We
>have been denied requests before.
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:42 PM
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: The
>pledgeControversy/more pressing concerns)
>
>
>
>That's a good one to start with.  What are the reasons it is a good
>idea?  pedestrian traffic trying to cross?  Vehicles trying to cross?
>Both?  Is there a bicycle lane on Styner?  Should there be if there
>isn't?  Are there any reasons that a light there would be a bad idea?
>Doesn't it slope down the south side of that intersection?  Would that
>be any kind of reason that it wouldn't work?
>
>joekc at adelphia.net wrote:
>
>What about a light on Styner and Rt. 8?


>---- Tom Ivie wrote:
>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>What about other intersections in Moscow that could use stop signs? Any
>ideas? I have a couple on my short list but I'll admit I don't regularly
>hit every street in Moscow.
>
>My short list incl! udes making Blaine & Third as well as Blaine and 1st
>four-way stops (currently they are two-way not stopping traffic on
>Blaine. I think this would help with traffic/safety issues at Lena
>Elementary. I think Hayes and Third could probably be made into a
>four-way stop as well. I have heard it suggested that 6th and Mt. View
>could be a viable place for a four-way stop as well as Mt. View and
>White. Any thoughts or ideas on these? What about a three-way stop at D
>and Eisenhower by McDonald elementary? Another suggestion I have heard
>on v2020 in the past was a three-way stop at Hayes and 6th. I am sure
>there are others that you people can come up with and I would like to
>hear them. -Tom
>
>Tom Hansen wrote:
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>
>Although, I am familiar with t! he council's discussion concerning the
>intersection of D Street and Mountain View (after having watched the
>session on television), I feel that my input would not add credence to
>either side of the argument. My many ventures in the past few years have
>placed me in its vicinity maybe two or three times.
>
>However, I would be interested in "listening in" to the discussion as it
>evolves here on V2020.
>
>How about it, Moscow? Let's pass the soap box to some people with
>knowledge concerning this issue.
>
>Thanks again, Mr. Ivie, for clearing the air.
>
>Tom "going stealth" Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
>arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
>skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
>thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
>ride!'"
>
>
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>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:51 PM
>To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The pledge Controversy/more pressing concerns
>
>
>I think J hit the nail square on the head with this one. There ARE more
>pressing things going on in Moscow. The Council and Mayor do a heck of a
>lot more than just recite pledges and most of it we never hear about.
>The D and Mt. View issue is an excellent case in point. That insightful
>discussion by City Council at the previous Council meeting has led to
>that intersection being added to the agenda for the Public Works Finance
>Committee. Something proactive and possitive will likely come from it,
>which is more than I can say about this pledge discussion. -Tom
>
>
>
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>highway
>requires ITD approval, the City Council could recommend, but can’t =
>just
>have something installed.&nbsp; We have been denied requests =
>before.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
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><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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>vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] =
><b><span
>style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tom Ivie<br>
><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 27, =
>2006
>3:42 PM<br>
><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
>vision2020 at moscow.com<br>
><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] =
>Re: <st1:Street
>w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">D Street</st1:address></st1:Street> =
>and <st1:City
>w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Mountain View</st1:place></st1:City> =
>(Was: The
>pledgeControversy/more pressing concerns)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>style=3D'font-size:
>12.0pt'>That's a good one to start with.&nbsp; What are the reasons it =
>is a
>good idea?&nbsp; pedestrian traffic trying to cross?&nbsp; Vehicles =
>trying to
>cross? Both?&nbsp; Is there a bicycle lane on Styner?&nbsp; Should there =
>be if
>there isn't?&nbsp; Are there any reasons that a light there would be a =
>bad
>idea?&nbsp; Doesn't it slope down the south side of that =
>intersection?&nbsp;
>Would that be any kind of reason that it wouldn't work?&nbsp; <br>
><br>
><b><i><span =
>style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>joekc at adelphia.net</span></i=
> ></b>
>wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
><div>
>
><div>
>
><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>style=3D'font-size:
>12.0pt'>What about a light on Styner and Rt. 8?<br>
>--<br>
>Joe Campbell<br>
><br>
>---- Tom Ivie <THE_IVIES3 yahoo.com=3D"#DEFAULT">wrote:<br>
><br>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
>What about other intersections in <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
>w:st=3D"on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
>that could use stop signs? Any ideas? I have a couple on my short list =
>but I'll
>admit I don't regularly hit every street in <st1:City =
>w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
>  w:st=3D"on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
><br>
>My short list incl! udes making Blaine &amp; Third as well as <st1:City =
>w:st=3D"on">Blaine</st1:City>
>and 1st four-way stops (currently they are two-way not stopping traffic =
>on <st1:City
>w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Blaine</st1:place></st1:City>. I =
>think this
>would help with traffic/safety issues at Lena Elementary. I think Hayes =
>and
>Third could probably be made into a four-way stop as well. I have heard =
>it
>suggested that 6th and <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">Mt.</st1:PlaceType> =
><st1:PlaceName
>w:st=3D"on">View</st1:PlaceName> could be a viable place for a four-way =
>stop as
>well as <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType =
>w:st=3D"on">Mt.</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName
>  w:st=3D"on">View</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> and White. Any thoughts or =
>ideas on
>these? What about a three-way stop at D and Eisenhower by McDonald =
>elementary?
>Another suggestion I have heard on v2020 in the past was a three-way =
>stop at
>Hayes and 6th. I am sure there are others that you people can come up =
>with and
>I would like to hear them. -Tom<br>
><br>
>Tom Hansen <THANSEN moscow.com=3D"#DEFAULT">wrote:<br>
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>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Thank you, Mr. Ivie.<br>
><br>
>Although, I am familiar with t! he council’s discussion concerning =
>the
>intersection of <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">D =
>Street</st1:address></st1:Street>
>and Mountain View (after having watched the session on television), I =
>feel that
>my input would not add credence to either side of the argument. My many
>ventures in the past few years have placed me in its vicinity maybe two =
>or
>three times.<br>
><br>
>However, I would be interested in “listening in” to the =
>discussion
>as it evolves here on V2020.<br>
><br>
>How about it, <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
>w:st=3D"on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>?
>Let’s pass the soap box to some people with knowledge concerning =
>this
>issue.<br>
><br>
>Thanks again, Mr. Ivie, for clearing the air.<br>
><br>
>Tom “going stealth” Hansen<br>
><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Moscow</st1:City>, =
><st1:State w:st=3D"on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
><br>
>&quot;Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of =
>arriving
>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly =
>used up,
>totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'&quot;<br>
><br>
><br>
>---------------------------------<br>
><br>
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com =
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
>Behalf Of Tom Ivie<br>
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:51 PM<br>
>To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com<br>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The pledge Controversy/more pressing =
>concerns<br>
><br>
><br>
>I think J hit the nail square on the head with this one. There ARE more
>pressing things going on in <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
>w:st=3D"on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.
>The Council and Mayor do a heck of a lot more than just recite pledges =
>and most
>of it we never hear about. The D and <st1:place =
>w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">Mt.</st1:PlaceType>
>  <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">View</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> issue is an =
>excellent
>case in point. That insightful discussion by City Council at the =
>previous
>Council meeting has led to that intersection being added to the agenda =
>for the
>Public Works Finance Committee. Something proactive and possitive will =
>likely
>come from it, which is more than I can say about this pledge discussion. =
>-Tom<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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