[Vision2020] Wal-Mart is Unwelcome
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Jan 25 11:42:11 PST 2006
Kai and Phil,
Thanks for your responses. Maybe I took your comments the wrong way, and if
I did, I'm sorry. I think that there are very few places, other than the
former Cabrini-Greene in Chicago or the El Encanto neighborhood in Tucson,
perhaps, that are "all" slum or "all" prosperous. I guess I bristle at
things like that because it tends to dismiss the successes of the people in
the "slums" and overlook the rot in the tony areas. I'm not naive; the
neighborhood I grew up in was and is fairly run down, but I know that
decisions that were purported to have been made because of how government
perceived us rarely had our best interests in mind.
Again, though, your respect and candor in correcting me is appreciated.
keely
From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart is Unwelcome
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:26:47 -0800
Keely
My remarks about the South Hill had absolutely nothing to do with Wally
World. Hansen, since that is his preference for me to call him, stated that
the South Hill of Spokane was loaded down with Rich Folks. Having lived
there for a while, I stated that he was incorrect, since I was living in the
slums there and still have former in-laws living in the slums there. It was
not meant as an attack on Hansen, just a statement that South Hill is a lot
more complex then he is aware.
Phil Nisbet
>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: editor at lataheagle.com, thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart is Unwelcome
>Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:58:47 -0800
>
>I'll start by saying I know nothing, anecdotally or experientially, about
>Spokane's South Hill. My dog is in the "no" to a Moscow WalMart Superstore
>fight, and so is Tom Hansen's. But I've been a little surprised this
>morning at the attacks Tom has had levied against him because of his
>initial posting of the anti-Supercenter-South Hill movement beginning in
>Spokane.
>
>Tom undoubtedly knows more about both WalMart and South Hill than I do, but
>I know this: it's unfair to use the current state of South Hill as a
>weapon with which to smack him for his opposition to the Supercenter. Good
>people can disagree with each other on this, but Tom is not singlehandedly
>responsible for South Hill blight, South Hill cultural and economic
>restoration, or South Hill's success in dealing with WalMart. He linked us
>to an article. He's spoken out against the Moscow plan. He doesn't hate
>poor people and he doesn't have to be King of all things South Hill to
>voice his opinion.
>
>The "denying the poor a place to shop" thing, besides being offensive to
>the core and ignorant in its origin, is also getting really stale. When
>there's a plan afoot to rid Moscow or anywhere else of all retail outlets
>other than Macy's, we can presume animus against the poor in retail zoning
>and planning. Absent that, some WalMart Supercenter supporters might just
>have to start arguing from substance, not petulance.
>
>keely
>
>
>From: "Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "Moscow Vision 2020"
><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart is Unwelcome
>Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:50:23 -0800
>
>Tom,
>I lived in Spokane for about 14 years, including the South Hill. maybe you
>should take a drive through some of the East Central neighborhoods. Take
>the
>Freya exit and head south to 5th, then turn west into the Liberty Park
>area......Welcome to the ghetto.
>The line is striking, if you turn east on 5th from Freya, you'll find
>middle
>income families and generally well kept homes, including the one we sold
>before moving to Idaho. (Ours was one house in from the corner of 5th and
>Havana)
>I've also lived on 10th and had an apt. on 29th, so I knew the hill pretty
>well.
>Much of the lower South Hill, both east and west is poverty stricken, maybe
>you should try getting off Grand Blvd once in a while.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:10 AM
> To: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart is Unwelcome
>
>
> From today's (January 25, 2006) Spokesman Review with a special thanks
>to
>Gerald Houseman.
>
>
>
> We're not in this alone, Moscow.
>
>
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Wal-Mart is unwelcome
>
>
>
> So Wal-Mart, the no-goodnik corporate citizen, wants to extend its ugly
>plastic blight to Spokane's South Hill ("Wal-Mart considering supercenter
>on
>South Hill," Jan. 19). This would be a disaster for the environment,
>traffic
>control, property values, the business climate, aesthetics, and the social
>conscience of our neighborhood and our region.
>
>
>
> Wal-Mart is a job-killer, a bully company always seeking unfair
>competitive advantages (low-wage Chinese labor for its products, local tax
>concessions and giveaways on matters like traffic management), and, if the
>thousands of lawsuits against it can be considered credible, a lawbreaker,
>as well. It has allegedly been involved in overtime violations,
>discrimination against women, contracts with employers of illegal
>immigrants, and gross and intimidating anti-union activities.
>
>
>
> There is no place for Wal-Mart outside Bentonville, Ark. Like all
>corporations, its charter rests upon a legal privilege - not a right - to
>incorporate, a privilege that should have been revoked long ago.
>
>
>
> Gerald L. Houseman
>
>
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Dale "Doug's Boy" Courtney claims that Wal-Mart's primary effort is
>aimed
>at providing a benefit to low-income families.
>
>
>
> Like those of Spokane's South Hill? Come on "Comb-Over". The average
>family income for those living in Spokane's South Hill has got to be
>considerably more than mine.
>
>
>
> Here's a catchy tune:
>
>
>
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Walmart.mp3
>
>
>
> Take care, Moscow.
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
>
>
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
>arriving
>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>
>
>
>
>
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