[Vision2020] City Council and the Pledge

joekc at adelphia.net joekc at adelphia.net
Tue Jan 24 09:48:09 PST 2006


Personally, I like the phrase and consider it to be relatively harmless. That said, if we are going to compel others to say the Pledge -- whether they be council persons or school children -- the phrase should be removed and the Pledge should be restored to its original form.

Thanks! Joe



---- "Area Man (Dan C)" wrote:
>Joe
>
>I got to thinkin' that you asked me my opinion of the "Under God" part
>of the pledge.
>
>We know mine, and we know Don's. What are your feelings on it?
>
>DC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of joekc at adelphia.net
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:40 AM
>To: Donovan Arnold
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; DonaldH675 at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] City Council and the Pledge
>
>
>Donovan,
>John Dickinson wrote two letters to Vision 2020 explaining his views on
>the Pledge, and no where does he say anything close to the reason you
>criticize below, e.g., "not saying the pledge saves valuable time."
>(Actually, Don Huskey didn't even put the point this way.)
>John did write: "My primary objection to making the pledge pro forma is
>that it dilutes its meaning by saying it all the time." And he explained
>this view in detail in each of the letters.
>Why don't you go back and re-read John's actual words instead of making
>things up and suggesting that there is some hidden agenda.
>Best, Joe
>
>---- Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>The reality is that the "time issue" of banning the pledge is simply an
>excuse for those members of the council that disagree with saying the
>pledge(or some aspect of it). And rather then sitting there and not
>saying it, they just banned everyone from saying it.
>>
>>I have never ever heard the argument, other than from John Dickinson,
>that not saying the pledge saves valuable time. That is just insane.
>Sorry, I am not so dumb to take that bait.
>
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