[Vision2020] City Council and the Pledge
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 23 21:27:01 PST 2006
"Donovan,
I strongly disagree with you. In my opinion it is a waste of time for our elected officials to spend their time on so trivial a matter as the flag pledge when at most of the meetings I've attended time has been at a premium."
Don,
Sorry, but that is just lame. Honestly, if teachers have time to say the 15 second pledge everyday, as does the county, state, and federal governments, I am sure our ever urgent council members can squeeze it into their schedules twice a month.
The reality is that the "time issue" of banning the pledge is simply an excuse for those members of the council that disagree with saying the pledge(or some aspect of it). And rather then sitting there and not saying it, they just banned everyone from saying it.
I have never ever heard the argument, other than from John Dickinson, that not saying the pledge saves valuable time. That is just insane. Sorry, I am not so dumb to take that bait.
What they are doing is disrespectful to our country. It deserves 15 seconds of attention before bi monthly meetings.
_DJA
DonaldH675 at aol.com wrote: Donovan,
I strongly disagree with you. In my opinion it is a waste of time for our elected officials to spend their time on so trivial a matter as the flag pledge when at most of the meetings I've attended time has been at a premium.
Granted other people attach more importance to such rituals than I do. I spent 20 years in the Marine Corps, 12 of them as an infantry officer, and I suspect I have as much respect for our flag as anyone on the list. I cringe to see it flown disrespectfully from the antenna of a pickup truck, or on a jacket or pair of jeans, or tatooed on someone's arm, leg, or less visible place, and so on and so on.
But realistically, pledges and oaths are meaningless as professions of loyalty and even less meaningful to attempt to keep unworthy (by whatever description) persons from places of public trust. You can bet that Aldridge Ames had no reservations whatsoever about saying the pledge or taking oaths. I bet even the 9/11 hijackers said the pledge in their flight schools if it was recited there and would have taken any oath required in order to deceive or confuse their opponents.
So we each have our own reasons for wanting or not wanting certain actions taken or not taken. Let's not identify those who disagree with us with the issues themselves and consequently lose our perspective on the issues.
Don Huskey
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
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