[Vision2020] City Council and the Pledge

[Janesta Carcich]

Mayor Chaney,

So, if I am to understand this correctly.... Some City
Council members decided to not say the Pledge, without
discussion with the people who elected them? 

Take God out, I am a FIRM believer of separation of
Church and State. But to not say the Pledge of
Allegiance is beyond the pale. It is said in school,
but seldom, do we as adults have the opportunity to
say, or hear it... I feel it important to remember the
words, especially now, during this trying time in our
Nation. 

Council members who don't want to say it, may exit the
room. 

I pledge Allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation, indivisible,
with Liberty and Justice for all.


Respectfully,
Janesta Carcich

--- Nancy Chaney <nchaney at moscow.com> wrote:

> Donovan, just so you’ll know, Dan’s V2020 opener
> about “
humanness” was
> the end of my reading of a quote from Dr. Martin
> Luther King, Jr., in
> acknowledgment of his birthday and in support of
> human rights. In its
> entirety, it says: “We must work unceasingly to
> uplift this nation that
> we love to a higher plateau of compassion, to a more
> noble expression of
> humanness.” In my book, that also speaks to loyalty
> to country.
>  
> I acknowledge that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance
> is a big deal to
> many people. I would argue that contemplating the
> true meanings of those
> words is a bigger deal. Whatever their personal
> reasons, I believe that
> City Council members who asked that we not include
> the Pledge, are
> honorable and sincerely driven to serve this
> community. 
>  
> I get shivers when the flag goes by, but I
> appreciate that loving the
> foundations and people of ones Country is distinct
> from being made to
> say particular words before each Council meeting.
> Please be aware that
> upon being sworn in, local elected officials sign an
> oath to “support
> the Constitution of the United States and the State
> of Idaho, and the
> Laws and Ordinances of the City of Moscow, and 
to
> the best of (his/her)
> ability, faithfully perform the duties of the
> office
” I am confident
> that we all took that oath very seriously and
> considered the meaning of
> every word and our ability to abide by them in good
> conscience. Thank
> you for being concerned.
>  
> Nancy Chaney 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of
> Donovan Arnold
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: Area Man (Dan C); vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] City Council and the
> Pledge
>  
> Dan,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up. I think any person who
> cannot show a
> loyalty to the United States over other nations has
> no business being in
> an elected office in the United States. 
> 
> I think the people in any city, county, state, or
> country deserve, at
> minimum, the knowledge that their elected leaders
> are on their team. If
> an elected leader cannot say, "Yes, I affirm my
> allegiance to this
> country, state, county, and city FIRST.", I think
> that disqualifies them
> from the position. Saying, "I am for Humans" just
> does not cut it for
> me.
> 
> -DJA
> 
> 
> "Area Man (Dan C)" <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
> Members of the Vizzz,
> 
> I was perusing the agenda for the last city council
> meeting and noticed
> the Pledge of Allegiance was no longer an agenda
> item. I could not
> attend the meet! ing since my delicate flower was
> working basketball
> games
> (Go Bears!) and someone had to stay home and make
> sure the kids couldn't
> escape from their restraints (yes, I'm being
> facetious).
> 
> I listened to the city's recording of the council
> meeting, but the
> recording starts with Mayor Chaney saying: " . . .
> expression of
> humanness. With that we'll call the meeting to
> order." Then they move
> into the consent agenda and public comment period.
> 
> Does the council no longer begin meetings with the
> Pledge, or was it
> just not recorded? If the council no longer begins
> with the Pledge, why
> not?
> 
> curiosity's killin' me, and I ain't no cat,
> 
> DC
> 
>
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Janesta Carcich

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