[Spam] Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
ZoningLaw&FreewheelingCapitalism)
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Fri Jan 13 09:43:32 PST 2006
The Wren House was great.
-----Original message-----
From: Steven Basoa sbasoa at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:03:14 -0800
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was ZoningLaw&FreewheelingCapitalism)
> Let's not forget these venerable institutions: the Varsity Cafe and
> the Wren House. And (dis)honorable mention to the Varsity Drive-In
> theater...
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Pat Kraut wrote:
>
> Oh! Yes! I do remeber the indian!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kit Craine" <kcraine at moscow.com>
> To: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning
> Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)
>
>
> How about Bjorkland’s Hardware, with the indian head in the window,
> draw by someone shooting bullets through a sheet of metal? And,
> actually finding it open because it seldom was? And, when it did
> close the auction went on all day and you could buy a case of surplus
> WWII ammo real cheap?
>
> Kit Craine
>
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Carl Westberg wrote:
>
>
> > You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory Lane. Anyone else
> > remember Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's grocery on
> > Third Street, the Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent Co-
> > op, the days when the Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by
> > side on Third Street. Carter's Drug? The Parisian? Fonks?
> > Thrifty Five and Dime? Ward Hardware? The Varsity restaurant?
> > Roger's Ice Cream? I believe I'm going to get
> > misty.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Westberg Jr.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> >> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>, "Area Man (Dan C)"
> >> <areaman at moscow.com>
> >> CC: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law
> >> &FreewheelingCapitalism)
> >> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
> >>
> >> Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been here,but how early in
> >> you life you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you were 5
> >> years old your an "old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come
> >> lately. Growing up in a place gives a person a certain
> >> perspective. When you have seen the big, bad Safeway store move to
> >> town and displace the various ma & pa markets that were the order
> >> of the day back then, you will have a reference point for
> >> development in Moscow.
> >>
> >> g.crabtree
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Ted Moffett
> >> To: Area Man (Dan C)
> >> Cc: vision2020
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &
> >> FreewheelingCapitalism)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan et. al.
> >>
> >> How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to
> >> be considered an "old timer," in your opinion? I guess you think
> >> 20 years is not enough? Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
> >>
> >> Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old
> >> timers" out of town? That's a strong statement. I think some
> >> accurate facts are needed to back that up. I don't think many
> >> "transplants" would like this view of their impact.
> >>
> >> It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants"
> >> to really find out if they think development in the Moscow area is
> >> too much or OK. I know people who are new to the area who think
> >> that those who complain about the increase in traffic, etc. to be
> >> laughable, when they compare Moscow to Boston, etc. It's a
> >> relative issue, I guess. I can compare Moscow's current traffic
> >> to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and
> >> I personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other
> >> changes growth is bringing.
> >>
> >> I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to
> >> move to Boise to escape all the traffic up here! But really I am
> >> not totally joking. I expect traffic and big development in
> >> Boise, but I have no reference point for how Boise was 50 years
> >> ago, or not a very personal heartfelt reference point. But I do
> >> have such a reference point for Moscow.
> >>
> >> "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang
> >> on his double solo album of the same title.
> >>
> >> Ted Moffett
> >>
> >> On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
> >> Ted said:
> >> "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality
> >> that does
> >> not even know about or care about what is being lost, when
> >> people with
> >> money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who
> >> will think
> >> that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or
> >> ugly
> >> development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
> >>
> >> I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against
> >> "unmanaged
> >> or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not
> >> older
> >> locals, but transplants. Yes, there are some who are vocal
> >> that have
> >> been here their entire lives, but most have not. I'm not
> >> saying that
> >> unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion
> >> about who
> >> is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).
> >> Part of
> >> that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at
> >> making
> >> changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
> >>
> >> Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.
> >> Definitely
> >> not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
> >>
> >> DC
> >>
> >> P.S. I like John, it's just been a few months since the
> >> campaign, and
> >> he probably misses me poking fun at him. Although, since he is a
> >> technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
> >>
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