[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
ZoningLaw&FreewheelingCapitalism)
roger ames
rogerames at verizon.net
Fri Jan 13 06:53:39 PST 2006
How about the double ended commuter train that ran between Troy and Moscow?
One of my first school field-trips in kindergarten was to ride the train on
one of its last runs.
Roger Ames
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From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa at moscow.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
ZoningLaw&FreewheelingCapitalism)
> Let's not forget these venerable institutions: the Varsity Cafe and the
> Wren House. And (dis)honorable mention to the Varsity Drive-In
> theater...
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Pat Kraut wrote:
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> Oh! Yes! I do remeber the indian!
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kit Craine" <kcraine at moscow.com>
> To: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning
> Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)
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>
> How about Bjorkland’s Hardware, with the indian head in the window,
> draw by someone shooting bullets through a sheet of metal? And,
> actually finding it open because it seldom was? And, when it did
> close the auction went on all day and you could buy a case of surplus
> WWII ammo real cheap?
>
> Kit Craine
>
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Carl Westberg wrote:
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>
>> You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory Lane. Anyone else
>> remember Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's grocery on
>> Third Street, the Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent Co-
>> op, the days when the Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by
>> side on Third Street. Carter's Drug? The Parisian? Fonks?
>> Thrifty Five and Dime? Ward Hardware? The Varsity restaurant?
>> Roger's Ice Cream? I believe I'm going to get
>> misty.
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>>
>> Carl Westberg Jr.
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>>> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>>> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>, "Area Man (Dan C)"
>>> <areaman at moscow.com>
>>> CC: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law
>>> &FreewheelingCapitalism)
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
>>>
>>> Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been here,but how early in
>>> you life you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you were 5
>>> years old your an "old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come
>>> lately. Growing up in a place gives a person a certain
>>> perspective. When you have seen the big, bad Safeway store move to
>>> town and displace the various ma & pa markets that were the order
>>> of the day back then, you will have a reference point for
>>> development in Moscow.
>>>
>>> g.crabtree
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ted Moffett
>>> To: Area Man (Dan C)
>>> Cc: vision2020
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &
>>> FreewheelingCapitalism)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan et. al.
>>>
>>> How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to
>>> be considered an "old timer," in your opinion? I guess you think
>>> 20 years is not enough? Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
>>>
>>> Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old
>>> timers" out of town? That's a strong statement. I think some
>>> accurate facts are needed to back that up. I don't think many
>>> "transplants" would like this view of their impact.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants"
>>> to really find out if they think development in the Moscow area is
>>> too much or OK. I know people who are new to the area who think
>>> that those who complain about the increase in traffic, etc. to be
>>> laughable, when they compare Moscow to Boston, etc. It's a
>>> relative issue, I guess. I can compare Moscow's current traffic
>>> to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and
>>> I personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other
>>> changes growth is bringing.
>>>
>>> I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to
>>> move to Boise to escape all the traffic up here! But really I am
>>> not totally joking. I expect traffic and big development in
>>> Boise, but I have no reference point for how Boise was 50 years
>>> ago, or not a very personal heartfelt reference point. But I do
>>> have such a reference point for Moscow.
>>>
>>> "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang
>>> on his double solo album of the same title.
>>>
>>> Ted Moffett
>>>
>>> On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>>> Ted said:
>>> "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality
>>> that does
>>> not even know about or care about what is being lost, when
>>> people with
>>> money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who
>>> will think
>>> that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or
>>> ugly
>>> development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
>>>
>>> I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against
>>> "unmanaged
>>> or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not
>>> older
>>> locals, but transplants. Yes, there are some who are vocal
>>> that have
>>> been here their entire lives, but most have not. I'm not
>>> saying that
>>> unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion
>>> about who
>>> is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).
>>> Part of
>>> that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at
>>> making
>>> changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
>>>
>>> Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.
>>> Definitely
>>> not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> P.S. I like John, it's just been a few months since the
>>> campaign, and
>>> he probably misses me poking fun at him. Although, since he is a
>>> technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
>>>
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