Correction: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law & Freewheeling Capitalism)

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 00:48:04 PST 2006


Dan et. al.

I wrote:

...I have no reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago.... But I do
have such a reference point for Moscow.

Yikes!  I meant to write 40 years ago, given that 1965 was when I first saw
Moscow.

Ted Moffett


On 1/12/06, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dan et. al.
>
> How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to be
> considered an "old timer," in your opinion?  I guess you think 20 years is
> not enough?  Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
>
> Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old timers" out of
> town?  That's a strong statement.  I think some accurate facts are needed to
> back that up.  I don't think many "transplants" would like this view of
> their impact.
>
> It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants" to really
> find out if they think development in the Moscow area is too much or OK.  I
> know people who are new to the area who think that those who complain about
> the increase in traffic, etc. to be laughable, when they compare Moscow to
> Boston, etc. It's a relative issue, I guess.  I can compare Moscow's current
> traffic to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and I
> personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other changes growth is
> bringing.
>
> I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to move to
> Boise to escape all the traffic up here!  But really I am not totally
> joking.  I expect traffic and big development in Boise, but I have no
> reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago, or not a very personal
> heartfelt reference point.  But I do have such a reference point for Moscow.
>
>
> "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang on his
> double solo album of the same title.
>
> Ted Moffett
>
> On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ted said:
> > "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality that does
> > not even know about or care about what is being lost, when people with
> > money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who will think
> > that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or ugly
> > development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
> >
> > I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against "unmanaged
> > or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not older
> > locals, but transplants.  Yes, there are some  who are vocal that have
> > been here their entire lives, but most have not.  I'm not saying that
> > unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion about who
> > is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).  Part of
> > that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at making
> > changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
> >
> > Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.  Definitely
> > not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
> >
> > DC
> >
> > P.S.  I like John, it's just been a few months since the campaign, and
> > he probably misses me poking fun at him.  Although, since he is a
> > technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
> >
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