[Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Walmart

Mon Jan 9 18:00:55 PST 2006

Hi Donovan,

The first prey that Walmart attacks is towns where the income base is
primarily governmental. Sound familiar?

Phil Roderick 

-------Original Message-------

From: Donovan Arnold
Date: 01/09/06 17:13:48
To: Shelly; vision2020 at moscow.com; deco at moscow.com
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Walmart

"There are no lies in it or it could not be on TV."-- Phil  Roderick

I do not know about the validity of this statement. I have seen Fox News. I
have also heard the Bush administration, Congress, and Richard Nixon on TV. 

I also am wondering when someone is going to do the Nazi / Wall-Mart
comparison. I am sure it is coming up soon. 

How many ghost towns are around with just a Wal-Mart? I would tend to think
that Wal-Mart would lose money if they wiped a town out of business. 

_DJA

Shelly <CJs at turbonet.com> wrote:
Hi Wayne,

In reference to the Foreman grill, the specs are derived from Foreman's
personal engineers. Nothing to do with Walmart. Second, people today (13
year olds) are to lazy to go to another store when it is a "one stop shop."
I think the concept originally came from a book called, "the bible," where
it talks about we will have a one world government. We know Walmart has
expanded into other numerous countries, let alone dominating the USA. In
less than one, single generation. Quite a feat. Back to that one world
government, democracy is blossoming everywhere. What do you think takes
place at the world trade meetings? Setting prices and tariffs.
Hhhhheeeeellloooooooooooooooo !!

The only reason the existing Walmart wants to get out of it's present
location is because it cannot have the groceries. Because they know the only
grocery store that is making a strong profit is Winco. Not for long. They
are putting in "two" stores to take out Winco. This will stop the people
from Washington driving over. Although Muscovites might drive over for the
tax savings. Do you really believe the small communities that put their
money together and did a fact finding mission and has produced a documentary
that has aired on numerous TV stations about how Walmart kills a community.
Are you not able to understand what the documentary is saying? There are no
lies in it or it could not be on TV. Two Walmart's in our small community?
Helllloooooooooooooo. There is an agenda. Wake up! If Walmart wants a
grocery store and the one stop shopping isn't truly an asset, Tidyman's is
available. Please wake up.

Phil Roderick

-------Original Message-------

From: Art Deco
Date: 01/09/06 10:59:48
To: Vision 2020
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Walmart

Phil,

I cannot be sure of WalMart's corporate intentions.  However, a little of
what you speak of has already occurred at the present WalMart.

When the Moscow WalMart first opened, they were the price leaders on almost
everything.  On certain items they still are, especially in pharmacy/
drugstore type products.  However, on many products there is no difference
between their prices and many Moscow businesses.  For example, the WalMart
price for many cleaning supplies is the same price found at Tri-State.  On
certain household items, WinCo prices are lower than WalMart's.

In addition, do not think that the national brand products bought at WalMart
are the same as sold by other area retailers.  WalMart (and many other big
box stores and chains) really puts the price squeeze on manufacturers. 
Hence, the manufacturers value engineer* the products they produce for
WalMart and others.  The George Foreman Grill that you would buy at WalMart
is likely not the same quality as the one you would buy at Tri-State despite
the sameness of model number.

WalMart is not the only one to do this, however they seem to be the most
predatory in this regard.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

*Definitions of Value Engineering on the Web: 
An analysis of materials, processes, and products in which functions are
related to cost and from which a selection may be made so as to achieve the
desired function at the lowest overall cost consistent with performance.
www.lancastercountyheritage.com/planning/cwp/view.asp 
A short formal project review, utilizing highly experienced experts in the
project field, to try to identify and recommend alternative solutions that
will add value to the project, by reducing costs or in other ways. The study
follows a formal set procedure for identifying and evaluating areas of value
savings, and usually takes place soon after a preferred design is identified
and estimated. For large projects, this process is required by most funding
sources.
www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/I5DesMoinesWaySouth188St/glossary.html 
Value engineering is a functional analysis methodology that identifies and
selects the best value alternative for designs, materials, processes,
systems, and program documentation. VE applies to hardware and software;
development, production, and manufacturing; specifications, standards,
contract requirements, and other acquisition program documentation;
facilities design and construction; and management or organizational systems
and processes to improve the resulting product.
strategicsourcing.navy.mil/reference_documents/defs.cfm 
Value Engineering is a technique used to evaluate life cycle costs of
engineering projects. It is a standard activity undertaken by GDOT for major
design projects that recommends potential cost saving opportunities to the
project design team.
www.i16i75.com/index_files/main_files/faq.htm 
An organized methodology that identifies and selects the lowest lifecycle
cost options in design, materials and processes that achieves the desired
level of performance, reliability and customer satisfaction. It seeks to
eliminate unnecessary costs in the above areas and is often a joint effort
with cross-functional internal teams and relevant suppliers.
www.bridgefieldgroup.com/glos9.htm 
Design proposal to lower the total project cost of construction.
www.fta.dot.gov/library/planning/prob/glossary.html 
Currently defined by many government agencies as an organized effort
directed at analyzing the function of construction operations, systems,
equipment, facilities, procedures, methods, and supplies to determine if
anticipated costs are consistent with the requirements for performance,
quality, safety, and maintainability.
www.ecostructure.com/res_glossary.html 
An organized effort concerned with the elimination or modification of
anything that contributes to the cost of a contract item or task but is not
necessary for needed performance, quality, maintainability, reliability or
interchangeability. 003
appl.nasa.gov/resources/lexicon/terms_v.html 
Value engineering is a branch of industrial engineering in which the value
of a system’s outputs is optimized by crafting the optimum mix of
performance and costs. In most cases this practice identifies and removes
unnecessary expenditures, thereby increasing the value for the manufacturer
and/or their customers. 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_engineering
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Shelly 
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Walmart

FROM THE DESK OF PHIL:

What short memories everybody has. Remember when Walmart and Kmart came in?
It was death and destruction amongst the business community. Your neighbor
and friends. I think the census data has a major flaw in it. According to
the census data more than a majority of our population is well educated, but
still thinks and acts like they are 13. The big box stores cause another
reaction that you are not paying attention to. It causes a population shift.
People migrate to live closer to those areas. I also understand that we are
thinking of filling in the corridor between Moscow and Pullman. What's left
of our country feel, will cease. Don't even talk about our precious water
that we do not have.  We will become a new Los Angeles on a microscopic
scale. The rest of the businesses that are hanging on because none of us are
making any real money, will die along with the tax base. 

Here is the grand scheme of things. Walmart plans on putting in two huge
stores in a population our size?????? Do not forget that the signs entering
Moscow. They include the entire student population in their count. I was
told about 12,000. Reason? Our community is ignorant to the true business
intentions of their power. They put the two stores in and you gotta remember
they truly don't care if they both make a profit. Their goal is to "dominate
 our market. We will be losing businesses that currently supply us with beds
 oil changes, tires, gasoline, groceries, etc. We will have numerous
businesses join the bankruptcy line so Walmart can fleece our community of
it's core assets. So, you don't need to worry about there ever being a
downtown. Since, most of those businesses are downtown.

Then what they do after they have destroyed downtown on the Pullman and
Moscow side, they will "mothball" one of the stores. Notice nothing is said
about the current Moscow store they promised to keep open. Right! Not born
yesterday. You will notice they are not buying the land that is so they can
shut down one after they have killed all of us off and force everybody to
drive to the one that they leave open. 

Smart Growth? It is...... for a 13 year old. Let's not even talk about the
land owners surrounding the project. What a boondoggle. 

Does anyone know why all of a sudden a full fledge Walmart is now on the
table? Did our representatives or newspaper let us down? Our representatives
should spend 1 hour talking to managers at Safeway and Rosaurs along with a
few others. Talk to some that died on the first round. Many thought they
would survive it. Ha! 

Remember ........ the students are only here 6 1/2 months out of the year
and they are counted as part of our community. You guys are worried about
taxes? Half the students live in housing supplied by the University. More
than half receive loans to go to schools. That is our money once again.

Phil Roderick

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