[Vision2020] was certified pastors

[keely emerinemix]

You know, there was a time when community-building and the weaving of a 
diverse but common civic tapestry were considered noble endeavors.  Public 
schools were hailed as one way to promote a united sense of citizenship and 
responsibility, as well as equal access to education.  I'm proud to a part 
of that tradition.  There also was a time when gentlemen didn't feel the 
need to publicly comment on other people's sex lives or remind us of their 
own virility and potency at every turn -- another proud tradition, to be 
sure.

Truly, the potent bodice-ripper that is Heirdoug's life is still an odd 
genre through which to read comments about public education.  I might 
suggest that we tuck some subject matter back where it belongs; the flushing 
and rapid heartbeat I feel is, I'm afraid, impending nausea and not what 
Heirdoug seems to wish.

keely

From: heirdoug at netscape.net
To: ngier at uidaho.edu, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How about uncertified pastors?
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:55:15 -0500


"Professional Philosopher" Nick Gier had this to say: "they do just as much 
damage as uncertified teachers or Idaho
parents who homeschool their children with absolutely no state controls at 
all."


Dear Mr. Gier,

So let me get this straight the Damage of 'uncertified teachers and home 
education parents' can be quantified by
the higher achievement test scores when compared to the public school's and 
it's more than qualified 'certified'
teachers, administrators and councillors. That's good sound philosophical 
reasoning.

You must really be thinking that the home-educated children are not being 
properly indoctrinated with all of those
social skills that the local public school district instills in the public 
schooled children...

Let's consider this quote from the MSD Newsletter.....

    "The primary value of Moscow Public Schools lies in preparing students 
to be successful,
    contributing members of society and in perpetuating and improving our 
democratic way
    of life. Our schools, consistent with our Beliefs, assist children to 
gain the knowledge, skills,
    habits, understanding, attitudes, and character that promote this way of 
life. Essential
    outcomes of such educational experiences include respect for the rights 
of others who
    are different, readiness to promote the general welfare, a wholesome 
approach to the
    many responsibilities of life, and a desire always to improve one's 
competencies in vocational,
    personal, and social experiences. The District is accountable to both 
students and parents
    -- our primary constituents -- for the quality and availability of 
adequate educational services."

H. L. Mencken in April 1924 for The American Mercury said that the aim of 
public school is not
    "to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their 
intelligence.  ... Nothing
    could be further from the truth. The aim ... is simply to reduce as many 
individuals as
    possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized 
citizenry, to put down
    dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States... and 
that is its aim everywhere
    else."

I like the difference between educated and schooled. I believe Public school 
is like Viagra...
                         Never used it and don't need to!

lemeno,
Doug

"The god you create is the god you will worship."
~~ Nick Gier (a paraphrase)
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