[Vision2020] Eavesdropping

[James Reynolds]

Phil,

Clinton was impeached, he just was not removed from office because lying 
about an extramarital affair was not a crime worthy of removing him. However 
lying to get a war started and illegally spying on the American people (and 
lying about this also) are two crimes that are not only impeachable offenses 
but are definitely worthy of removal. Is he guilty? Hell yes. Will he be 
impeached? Hell no. Why not? Because we have a pathetic congress that only 
thinks of their individual wealth accumulation.

I reiterate that this is not about Clinton vs. Bush nor Republican vs 
Democrat. The current battle is between the American people and a self 
centered government. Impeachment is not enough we need a revolution to 
replace this mess and start again with the Constitution once again as our 
guiding document.

James


>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: ophite at gmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eavesdropping
>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:20:28 -0800
>
>Andreas
>
>Seems to me that is fairly assumptive.  I for one was pretty strongly 
>opposed to the impeachment process at the time.  A lot of people in the GOP 
>who did not care of many a Clinton Policy were also opposed.  Had they not 
>been, Clinton would have been impeached.
>
>Not all Republicans or conservatives were Clinton haters, that is folks who 
>would believe absolutely anything and foam at the mouth for Clinton's 
>blood.  I seem to recall any number of liberal Democratic friends who said 
>at that time that if the shoe was on the other foot, they would act 
>differently and that we should remember the President was the President for 
>all Americans.
>
>Do you see any difference between the Clinton haters who had him plotting 
>to kill girls he had slept with and sending Chinese secret agents ;to get 
>bribe money or plot to overthrow the government and the folks now who see 
>the same crazy thing going down with Bush?
>
>Reality is that America did not disappear in the last years of the Clinton 
>Administration and it will not disappear in the last years of the Bush one 
>either.  All the talk of revolution then was hot air and the same is true 
>now.  Heck I would be glad to pull up some of the 1940's stuff that was 
>going around screaming the exact same thing about FDR.  Its been 65 years 
>since those rants about Imperial Presidencies and war mongering and 
>destroying our rights and shock and amazement, America is actually freer 
>now than then.
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
>>From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>>CC: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eavesdropping
>>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:45:59 -0800
>>
>>On 2/27/06, Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh, Yes! Lets get someone else who for years will suck up money and 
>>come
>> > up with no real answers...it is a great system for using up funds that
>> > aren't needed somewhere else!
>> >
>>
>>Funny. That doesn't seem to have been your opinion when it was a pointless
>>investigation of Clinton that was the issue.
>>
>>-- ACS
>
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