[Vision2020] Holocaust Denier gets Three Years

Mon Feb 20 12:03:27 PST 2006

Yes.

BIG thanks to Mr. Nisbet.

To other V2020 subscribers . . .

Remember:

http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/irving.htm

Although David Irving may be "out of the picture" for a while, there remains
Edgar Steele:

http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/Steele.htm

And just to give you a "taste" of Edgar Steele, here is an audio of a speech
he gave last summer in Portland:

http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/SteeleWMA.wma

Just keeping my eyes open . . .

Take care, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
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Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Holocaust Denier gets Three Years

Thanks for posting this, Phil!  IMHO, it's interesting from a local
perspective, too.

Does anyone know how sentences work in Austria?  Will we really not have to
worry about him coming back to Moscow for three years?  IIRC, we never knew
who invited him (his claim was that he *was* invited) to come spew his venom
here . . . 

I'd like to take this opportunity to -- again -- publicly thank the Mark IV
for its courageous stance in denying Irving a venue to spew his hatred &
lies when he came to Moscow in 2003.

And, actually, his nasty little visit to Moscow wasn't all bad because that
was the event that prompted some of us "Intoleristas" to first get together
to make a clear statement that ***our*** community does NOT support nor
appreciate his insanity (for lack of a better word & trying to keep in mind
that some of our community's youth may be reading).

Thanks again, Phi, for sharing this.

Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
- Edmund Burke

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:48 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Holocaust Denier gets Three Years

I read this and thought it might be interesting to see the Iranians hold
their upcoming conference in Austria.

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By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer
41 minutes ago

VIENNA, Austria - Right-wing British historian David Irving pleaded guilty
Monday to denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to three years in prison,
even after conceding he wrongly said there were no Nazi gas chambers at the
Auschwitz concentration camp.

Irving, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived in court carrying a
copy of one of his most controversial books — "Hitler's War," which
challenges the extent of the Holocaust.

"I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz," 
Irving told the court before his sentencing, at which he faced up to 10
years in prison.

He also expressed sorrow "for all the innocent people who died during the
Second World War."

But he insisted he never wrote a book about the Holocaust, which he called
"just a fragment of my area of interest."

"In no way did I deny the killings of millions of people by the Nazis," 
testified Irving, who has written nearly 30 books.

The court said Irving had three days to appeal his sentence. His lawyer did
not immediately say whether he planned to do so.

Irving, 67, has been in custody since his November arrest on charges
stemming from two speeches he gave in Austria in 1989 in which he was
accused of denying the Nazis' extermination of 6 million Jews. He has
contended that most of those who died at concentration camps such as
Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution.

The convicted Irving after his guilty plea under the 1992 law, which applies
to "whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or tries to excuse the
National Socialist genocide or other National Socialist crimes against
humanity in a print publication, in broadcast or other media."

Irving's trial came amid new — and fierce — debate over freedom of
expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering
caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered deadly protests worldwide.

Irving's lawyer, Elmar Kresbach, said last month the controversial Third
Reich historian was getting up to 300 pieces of fan mail a week from
supporters around the world and was writing his memoirs in detention under
the working title "Irving's War."

Irving was arrested Nov. 11 in the southern Austrian province of Styria on a
warrant issued in 1989. He was charged under a federal law that makes it a
crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.

Irving had tried to win his provisional release on $24,000 bail, but a
Vienna court refused, saying it considered him a flight risk.

Within two weeks of his arrest, he asserted through his lawyer that he had
come to acknowledge the existence of Nazi-era gas chambers. Before the trial
began, Irving told reporters he now acknowledges that the Nazis
systematically slaughtered Jews during World War II.

"History is like a constantly changing tree," he said.

In the past, however, he has claimed that Adolf Hitler knew little if
anything about the Holocaust, and he has been quoted as saying there was
"not one shred of evidence" the Nazis carried out their "Final Solution" to
exterminate the Jewish population on such a massive scale.

Vienna's national court, where the trial is being held, ordered the balcony
gallery closed to prevent projectiles from being thrown down at the bench,
the newspaper Die Presse reported Sunday.

It quoted officials as saying they were bracing for Irving's supporters to
give him the Nazi salute or shout out pro-Hitler slogans during the trial.

In 2000, Irving sued American Holocaust scholar Deborah Lipstadt for libel
in a British court but lost. The presiding judge in that case, Charles Gray,
wrote that Irving was "an active Holocaust denier ... anti-Semitic and
racist."

Irving has had numerous run-ins with the law over the years.

In 1992, a judge in Germany fined him the equivalent of $6,000 for publicly
insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax.

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