[Vision2020] Bowing

heirdoug at netscape.net heirdoug at netscape.net
Fri Feb 10 16:04:07 PST 2006


Jackie Woolf,
 
So here is another question... "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?..." when will you 'bow' your neck... and "kiss the son?"
 
lemeno Doug!
 
 
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From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:53:15 -0800
Subject: [Vision2020] Bowing


Doug Wilson: "Vocabulary of Obedience: "Put another way, the Bible does not tell us whether the British or the American military salute is 'more proper' than the other. But it does require the fact of the salute. Expressions of honor are common to all human societies, and the Bible requires that we honor others and maintain such expressions of honor. TO ALLOW CULTURAL EXPRESSIONS OF HONOR TO FALL INTO DISUSE AND TO FORGET THEM IS TO LOSE THE VOCABULARY OF OBEDIENCE. THEN, WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES NEED TO OBEY, WE HAVE LOST THE MEANS TO DO SO. Consequently, we must distinguish between the position that says (correctly) that expressions of honor may vary and the position that says there is no such thing as an expression of honor" (The Paideia of God, pp. 43-44). 
Posted by Douglas Wilson - 2/9/2006 8:17:23 AM" 
 
Comment from a follower: 
 
I salute you Pastor Wilson. Bud Blythe - 2/10/2006 7:23:18 AM 
 
So, saluting = honoring and recognizing "the need to obey". 
 
As I recall, in the old days entering and leaving the presence of a superior, leader, king, etc. used to be done by bowing; this was done quite frequently and "religiously" during the days of the Bible. In fact, it is still done in many areas of the world, including England, today. It was a show of respect, submissiveness and subordination. 
 
Therefore, bowing = honoring and recognizing "the need to obey" as well. 
 
When do we start to see CCers bowing/saluting Doug and his fellow elders (translated as being leaders), in concordance with what Doug calls the means of showing honor and obediance? 
 
Just asking. 
 
J :] 
 
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