[Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 6 21:07:03 PST 2006


Is that why we invaded Iraq?  Are you saying this is why we'll invade Iran 
too?

Sunil


>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:44:34 -0800
>
>Saddam nor Iran have said anything about controlling all the oil and making
>us pay and pay for it. They both said they want all Jews dead or in Europe
>and Israel no more and the holocaust never happened. For them its about the
>Jews, the people...there is no oil in Israel!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>To: <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 6:39 AM
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
>
>
>Phil,
>
>Sometimes your leaps leave me amazed, and this is one of those times.  I
>didn't see anything in Roger's post that comes close to being anti-Semitic,
>and yet there you are with a pretty wild accusation.
>
>I think this war is in large part about controlling access to oil.  I don't
>think 'it's all about the Jews.  And I think someone should be able to make
>the first statement without being accused of the second.
>
>When you do that you take away the ability to have an honest discussion
>about the war.  Instead of discussing the issue that was actually raised,
>now we're off having a different discussion about an unrelated subject.
>
>Sunil
>
>
> >From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
> >To: rhayes at turbonet.com
> >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
> >Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:06:07 -0800
> >
> >Roger H
> >
> >So, from your particular slant here, its perfectly OK that the radicals 
>of
> >the Islamic world decides to target people and countries for death and
> >extermination?
> >
> >Your notions here remind me of the America First movement of the 1930's.
> >In particular it reminds me of Charles Lindberg's speeches of that era.  
>So
> >when do I get to hear the other shoe drop, that same plaint that Lindberg
> >used, "Its all about those darn Jews"?
> >
> >Phil Nisbet
> >
> >
> >>From: roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com>
> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: [Vision2020] Re: LMT reporting US losses
> >>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:21:20 -0800
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Ted, the media is suffering from the same mentality as the American
> >>public, cognitive dissonance. This means even though the truth is  
>staring
> >>us in the face, we would prefer not to know, or see, what's  really 
>going
> >>on. As death, whether American, or Iraqi becomes all too  common, we 
>will
> >>relegate that news further from the forefront of our  consciousness, and
> >>hence the front page of our papers.
> >>For all of our patriotic chest thumping, the recent waves of  
>indignation
> >>about the cartooning of Mohammed and the resulting claim  that Islam is
> >>trying to take over the world, the deaths are for, and  about, oil. We
> >>need it, and they have it. This is the truth people  don't want to know.
> >>But even our corporate oil President in his State  of the
> >>Union Address said, "we are addicted to oil." I sense that he feels  
>safe
> >>in at last stating the truth about the war. He knows we will hear  
>truth,
> >>but we will do nothing about it.
> >>Soon we will have to begin rating our SUVs and monster trucks in miles
> >>per human life rather than miles per gallon. Even that will be  
>acceptable
> >>I fear.
> >>
> >>Roger Hayes
> >>Moscow
> >>
> >>
> >>>All:
> >>>
> >>>I was amazed and dismayed to read the Friday, Feb. 3, 2006 edition of
> >>>the
> >>>Lewiston Morning Tribune, given the choices made regarding what  
>deserves
> >>>front page focus, and what does not.  Four articles dominated the front
> >>>page:  one on wolves delisting, Bush seeking 120 billion more for wars,
> >>>Orofino teenagers, and something about a Lapwai man and Pres-to-Logs...
> >>>
> >>>Then I was astonished to read on the left hand lower corner of page 3 a
> >>>small article, with a tiny headline, notifying us that 5 more US
> >>>soldiers
> >>>had died in combat in Iraq in the past week.
> >>>
> >>>I know that many Iraq war supporters think the US media focuses too  
>much
> >>>on
> >>>the negative news from Iraq, but does putting notice of the deaths in
> >>>the
> >>>past week of 5 US soldiers, who gave their lives to defend us, deserve
> >>>nothing more than a tiny article with a tiny headline in the left hand
> >>>lower
> >>>corner of page 3?
> >>>
> >>>Have we become that callous to the horror of the war in Iraq, to the
> >>>ultimate sacrifices of our soldiers when they die in combat, that
> >>>Pres-to-Logs are a more important subject?
> >>>
> >>>Or did the Tribune make a decision that the deaths of US soldiers in
> >>>Iraq
> >>>are not the proper subject to best sell their newspaper at this time?
> >>>Has
> >>>coverage of the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq become so easily  
>accepted
> >>>that
> >>>they are not deemed newsworthy enough to be featured on the front page?
> >>>
> >>>Am I wrong to suggest something is amiss here in the Tribune's  
>coverage?
> >>>What am I overlooking or overemphasizing?
> >>>
> >>>Ted Moffett
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