[Vision2020] NSA - A hotbed of diversity?!

[g. crabtree]

 So, which is it, clogging up downtown parking with all their autos or poor 
church mice riding bikes & hitching rides? Or is flopping from one side of 
the fence to the other depending on which side provides a prop for a weak 
argument the order of the day?

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] NSA - A hotbed of diversity?!


> The following exchange is on Dale's "truth doesn't matter here" blog; 
> interesting points to remember:
>
> WHEN has NSA been asked to leave town?  They were asked to leave 
> DOWNtown - a totally different issue.
>
> What countries, specifically, are represented by NSA students?  How many 
> non-white, non-american students attend NSA?  Logos in the past have 
> listed their numbers - let's see NSA do the same.
>
> What students buy homes?  Most can't afford to pay rent, buy food, buy 
> cars (so many of them ride bikes or hitch rides to get to class - remember 
> them saying that at the Council meetings), much less pay a mortgage of 
> $1000 or better.
>
> Most of the buying done by NSA students is in CC businesses - even they 
> admit that and not in "polite company."
>
>
> Diversity Claims Ring Hollow
>
> The following letter to the editor appeared in today's Moscow-Pullman 
> Daily News:
>
>    These continual attempts to zone or push New Saint Andrews College out 
> of town do not serve the community's business interests, nor do they 
> reflect an atmosphere of tolerance.
>
>    The school occupies a downtown building that might otherwise lie 
> vacant. Its students and staff serve the local real estate market by 
> renting and buying houses and apartments. They open bank accounts here, 
> shop in Moscow's stores, eat in its restaurants and get haircuts at local 
> hair salons. They're good for business.
>
>    The college also brings cultural variety to town, drawing nearly 150 
> students from some 30 states and a number of foreign countries. These are 
> people who would otherwise never even hear of Moscow, let alone come here.
>
>    I can't claim to know any of these students, but I've known New Saint 
> Andrews President Roy Atwood and his wife, Bev, for 20 years. These are 
> fine people and, if their beliefs don't always coincide with mine, that's 
> fine, too.
>
>    Moscow claims to "celebrate diversity." Those words ring hollow from 
> City Hall these days.
>
>    Jim Jacobs, Lewiston
>
> posted on Thursday, 02 February, 2006 4:35 PM by dmcourtn
> Comments
> # re: Diversity Claims Ring Hollow
> Thursday, 02 February, 2006 6:22 PM by Tim Rigsby
> There are many errors within Jim Jacobs letter.
>
> First, no one has asked NSA to leave town but rather to vacate downtown. 
> People in Moscow like the idea of another educational experience and 
> opportunity in Moscow, just not in the core of downtown Moscow.
>
> Second, the staff may serve the real estate market buy purchasing homes in 
> Latah County, however, many students do not live in apartments in town but 
> rather live with CC members in boarding house situations. I can assume 
> based upon previous zoning issues that have surrounded NSA, the downtown 
> one is not the first, that the people who own these homes where students 
> are being house, do not have the proper occupancy permit or zoning 
> certificate issued by the City of Moscow.
>
> Third, a number of foreign countries are not represented by students at 
> NSA. If memory serves me there are only students from three or four 
> foreign countries. Also, since NSA represents 31 states and a number of 
> foreign countries, doesn't UI have students from at least 31 states and 
> numerous foreign countries? The same type of people who attend UI, or any 
> college or university, may have never heard about Moscow, ID unless they 
> attended UI.
>
> With that in mind, it is also possible that these same students have heard 
> of Moscow, ID prior to enrolling at NSA. More than likely, these students 
> knew who Doug Wilson was based upon his presence in conservative christian 
> circles. More than likely these students have read Credenda Agenda, 
> visited Blog and Mablog, or ordered a copy of SSAIW for their possible 
> slavery defense. Plus Moscow has been mentioned numerous times on the AP 
> wire over the years so I am sure at some point in these students lives, 
> they have or will hear about Moscow, ID without actually living here.
>
> # Firing Blanks
> Thursday, 02 February, 2006 8:45 PM by Dave
> Tim is firing the same blank rhetoric shots that the Intoleristas in town 
> do. In fact, Tim is being disingenuous. Since he graduated and moved away 
> from the Moscow hot bed of intolerance, he learned that people elsewhere 
> in our state don't even know who Doug Wilson is and they don't care what 
> he does or that he lives in Moscow. Tim even posted that factoid on Venom 
> 2020 last month.
>
> Yes Tim, NSA was asked to leave town. Don't you remember all the V2020 
> posts that were fired in anger?
>
> Tim, are your own Intolerista friends living up to the code that they love 
> so dearly? If they were, they would be honest in their dealings with Latah 
> County and Moscow city officials -- wouldn't they?.
>
> Moscow will continue to make the AP wire but it will be because of the 
> intolerant attitudes that are expressed toward Christians living here not 
> because of NSA.
>
> # re: Diversity Claims Ring Hollow
> Thursday, 02 February, 2006 11:08 PM by Kate
> I don't see any errors in the letter. It is true that the Intolerati want 
> NSA gone from Moscow, despite what they say in polite company. Many 
> students do rent apartments and buy houses-that's a fact. A number of 
> foreign countries are in fact represented in NSA's student body-at least 
> three- and there are in deed students from at least 30 states. Those are 
> facts. And it is NSA that drew the students here. Obviously, they wouldn't 
> have come otherwise.
>
> It would seem that Mr. Rigsby's attempt to rebut the letter was only the 
> oxygen deprived gasp of a dying cause.
>
>
> J  :]
>
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