[Vision2020] Life after death

[Tom Hansen]

It's kinda like the old saying, J.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him bathe."

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"


-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of J Ford
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:13 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Life after death

Hey, I thought you were going to try and tone this type of crap down?!  I 
have found your arguments of late to be well thought out and reasoned, even 
if I don't agree with them, and for the first time, I actually was regularly

reading them.  Now this!?  Come on, Dude....try saying this in a nicer way 
and the people will not be jumping down your throat as much nor as hard.

This is meant as friendly advice - it is NOT meant to taken as a hostile 
overture, ok?

Good New Year to you.

P.S.  Could you refrain from calling Tom "Tommy" - I have been trying to 
quit with the "Dougie-BOY" stuff, so mayhap we all should look to toning 
down the disrespect a mite.  JUST A SUGGESTION!!



J  :]





>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
>CC: Vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Life after death
>Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:00:45 -0800 (PST)
>
>Ralph,
>
>   Do I get a cookie for answering your meaningless trivial questions about

>the Bible?
>
>   Since you seem to have the "correct interpretation" of the Bible, and 
>all the answers, maybe you should arrange a meeting with the Pope.
>
>   When you have a point to your emails, or at least a subject, please feel

>free to share it with me. Thanks.
>
>   And no, I am not an expert on the Bible, and apparently, either are you.
>
>   Happy New Year,
>
>   Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>
>Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>   I guess you're not very familiar with the Bible, Donovan. Instead,
>you gave us theological speculation based on incorrect reading of the
>Bible.
>
>I'll give you a hint: in the Hebrew Bible (OT) only two people went
>to heaven, but they didn't die first. Do you know who they were?
>
>Ralph
>
>
>On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
> > Ralph,
> >
> > I would imagine very few went to Heaven during the time of the Old
> > Testament, as it is virtually impossible to get into Heaven without
> > Christ, and He hadn't even been born yet. I kind of think that was
> > the point of his visit.
> >
> > Happy New Year,
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> > Ralph Nielsen wrote:
> > This sounds more like a retort than a reply, Donovan. Did you have to
> > do some consulting before you wrote it?
> >
> > My question was, "How many people died and went to heaven in the
> > Hebrew Bible (Old Testament to Xians)?" This is not a theological
> > question, just a matter of fact.
> >
> > Ralph (who actually reads the Bible)
> >
> >
> >
> > Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Thu Dec 28 16:22:29 PST 2006
> >
> > Ralph,
> >
> > Everyone has an afterlife, regardless of if you believe in God or
> > not and regardless of if there is a God or not. Every person leaves
> > something behind.
> >
> > Happy New Year,
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >
> > Ralph Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > What a strange message, Donovan. You claim that 95% of the population
> > of this country "believe in a God and afterlife", presumably
> > including those who take an oath of office but "they just do what
> > they do for $$$$$, not for the interests of the people they are
> > suppose[d] to be serving." Or are the politicians the 5% to whom
> > "number three doesn't mean anything"?
> >
> > Don't you know, Donovan, that believing in God doesn't necessarily
> > entail belief in an afterlife? Haven't you read the Bible? Some weeks
> > ago I asked "heirdoug" to tell us how many people died and went to
> > heaven in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament to Xians). He said he was
> > "working on it" but he still hasn't told us the answer. Maybe you can.
> >
> > Back to the Bible!
> >
> > Ralph
> >
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